I am desperately wanting to upgrade my ’02 Sunfire’s lighting because I do a lot of night time driving through the country and my Silver Stars just aren’t cutting it anymore. I searched around here and didn’t really find anything that was too helpful for my situation.
Will
this kit work well? Also, I am wanting to double check on a few things:
1. Bi-xenon means it’s low and high beam in one correct?
2. It’s plug and play correct?
2. It won’t melt the headlight housings, wiring, etc.?
I am also wondering if
this kit (the very first kit listed - 880/881 conversion kit - #XT-5k-880) will work with my factory fog lights once I get them wired up?
Thanks in advance.
You have halogen reflector housings, so your beam pattern will be off and this can lead less output than you have now.
Your correct in that Bi-xenon is for both high and low and will need a relay harness for both fog and head light apps.
If you do install them you run the risk of blinding people (and output will still suck) and yes since it is a kit you could melt all your housings.
If your call man, I would honestly look for projectors, but thats just me.
Also remeber blinding oncoming traffic is serious, not being a dick just real straight forward.
Good luck with everything bro
" Aint nothin' but a Peanut!"
Not trying to sound like a bitch here...
but I have read over and over about many Sunfire owners who have HID conversion kits in their stock headlight housings and say the output is perfectly fine.
And as far as "blinding" other drivers, I have been "blinded" by plenty of high end luxury cars with factory HID setups, not to mention plenty of other cars with aftermarket projectors and HID conversion kits so I don't really see what the difference would be with me having stock housings and HIDs. In my opinion HIDs are @!#$ bright no matter what
! I don't want to "blind" other drivers on purpose, but at the same time I am definitely more concerned about my own safety and me being able to see clearly at night than I am about momentarily "blinding" another driver.
Yes those kits will work. The reason factory HID systems dont blind is because they use a projector, or difussor of some type.
I really do recomend the upgrade to HID, but I also recomend the investment in a projector retrofit for your car to do it right.
The Hi/Low bulbs usually dont work as well as you would think. That is another advantage to the bi-xenon projector housings.
HID systems run cooler than standard halogen, and use less power while creating a lot more light output. They are very efficiant systems. Good luck in what you choose, but remember to do it safely or dont do it at all.
You might be concerned when that blinded driver crosses the center line...
John Benham wrote:Yes those kits will work. The reason factory HID systems dont blind is because they use a projector, or difussor of some type.
I really do recomend the upgrade to HID, but I also recomend the investment in a projector retrofit for your car to do it right.
The Hi/Low bulbs usually dont work as well as you would think. That is another advantage to the bi-xenon projector housings.
HID systems run cooler than standard halogen, and use less power while creating a lot more light output. They are very efficiant systems. Good luck in what you choose, but remember to do it safely or dont do it at all.
hid bulbs dont really run cooler its just the heat is more concentrated around the bulb.
when i see a car with a HID kit in relfector housings glaring down the road it looks so tacky. I dont see why people buy HID in anything above 4300k unless you like seeing everything with a blue tint. I guess they want the blue look.
And a hid bulb in a reflector housing will never have the width or distance as it does in a good projector. and you will have crazy hotspots.
all these people that say you output is fine throw a pic or 2 up.
Well I agree that HID kits in a regular housing look tacky, thats why I made projectors for mine.
I will try to find some pre-projector output pics, but I honestly dont think I have any. I personally didnt have any problems with mine. I run 6000k, and have no blued vision. The people running the 12000 kits and such is absolutely rediculous.
I am not saying my output was better w/o projectors BTW. Just saying.
I made projectors because I knew my headlights would blind oncoming traffic, and was an unsafe condition. That is why I recomend he do it right and build some for himself.
I'm a girl damn it! Don't you people read profiles?
Okay guys, you can stop posting in this thread...
I am going to be keeping my stock headlights because I don’t like the look of projectors, so I will just be doing the
fog light bulb upgrade with Silver Star 885 bulbs once I get my fog lights wired up. I will also have the fog lights wired to stay on with the high beams which should help out at least a little with being able to see better at night.
^u said u didn't want 2 sound like a bitch? i don't understand?
WiGM-Tuners member.
Yeah, I was referring to these comments:
J TO ENVY wrote:but I have read over and over about many Sunfire owners who have HID conversion kits in their stock headlight housings and say the output is perfectly fine.
And as far as "blinding" other drivers, I have been "blinded" by plenty of high end luxury cars with factory HID setups, not to mention plenty of other cars with aftermarket projectors and HID conversion kits so I don't really see what the difference would be with me having stock housings and HIDs. In my opinion HIDs are @!#$ bright no matter what ! I don't want to "blind" other drivers on purpose, but at the same time I am definitely more concerned about my own safety and me being able to see clearly at night than I am about momentarily "blinding" another driver.
I thought some people would take them as being "bitchy" so I figured I would make it clear ahead of time that that's not how I was trying to come off.
^^ oh..
Well like I said don't mean to be a dick but it's serious I have seen elderly and the like almost in wrong lane following a car with HID's.
Get blazer projector fogs, the use the same oem bulb and will be sexy, trust me. here have a look.
Here's what colors they can look like at diffrent angles.. they look rediculous haha
" Aint nothin' but a Peanut!"
Stephen wrote:blazer fogs ftw
What bulbs do the blazer fogs use. That is a pretty sweet cut off line for fog lights and DAMM bright. Are those HID bulbs you have in those fogs?
Oh ya,
What year do the fog lights come from off the blazer? what size are they?
they are BLAZER brand fog lights... not fog lights off a blazer.... as for the 885's I would stay clear of them with stock wiring... chances are you'll melt your housings and connectors in no time... a big thumbs up for the blazer fog lights thought... i'm running them with 894's and they add the perfect amount of light... here's a couple pictures of what I did with my blazers... (this is before I lined up the cut off's) FYI the blazer projectors do not come like this... I retrofitted them into stock 00-05 sunfire fog lights
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J TO ENVY wrote:I'm a girl damn it! Don't you people read profiles?
You know I actually knew that.....and just typed him out of habit.
SRRY-mai bad.
Projectors and Dual HID Lowbeams/Fogs ALL the way!
Right before I gt my Projectors, had HIDs in the OEM headlights, and it WILL blind other drivers See the walls and ceiling around the car here:
The only pic I have right now Of the Light from the projectors and Fogs:
So My Vote is NONO on HIDs in OEM housings.
As far as High/Low beams, I Myself NEVER use High beams anymore. The HID's provide all the light I need, However I cheat and if I need to see further ahead I just Pop the front end up a little more (AIR)
Stephen wrote:Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:Stephen wrote:John Benham wrote:Yes those kits will work. The reason factory HID systems dont blind is because they use a projector, or difussor of some type.
I really do recomend the upgrade to HID, but I also recomend the investment in a projector retrofit for your car to do it right.
The Hi/Low bulbs usually dont work as well as you would think. That is another advantage to the bi-xenon projector housings.
HID systems run cooler than standard halogen, and use less power while creating a lot more light output. They are very efficiant systems. Good luck in what you choose, but remember to do it safely or dont do it at all.
hid bulbs dont really run cooler its just the heat is more concentrated around the bulb.
when i see a car with a HID kit in relfector housings glaring down the road it looks so tacky. I dont see why people buy HID in anything above 4300k unless you like seeing everything with a blue tint. I guess they want the blue look.
And a hid bulb in a reflector housing will never have the width or distance as it does in a good projector. and you will have crazy hotspots.
all these people that say you output is fine throw a pic or 2 up.
I see you took those pics in total darkness, that is how my Silverstars Ultra illuminate in pitch dark too. It is all about alignment. 
take some pics in total darkness then. Your headlights will NEVER have the width or distance of a nice projector, my pics dont show that very well. Waiting on pics
Wow. Hey kiddo, a word of advice, don't be calling out on people if you don't have clue on what the f-uck you're talking.
Here you go...
These all have some sort of street lighting, there fore I was not as lucky as you, but still shows how strong they are. Not to mention I have headlight covers too.
No light.
DRLs
High beam
Low beam
With streetlight
Dim street lights on a alley
How I see reflectors
Random
Best of all, I get the convenience of "flash to pass," DRLs, and alarm telling me when the car is armed and unarmed with out using the horn
To bad I could not find a place with no lights, to show it's true potential like you did, heh..the consequence of living in a big city. And like I said, it all about the alignment.
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