im just looking for some LIGHT OUTPUT pix of apc projectors.. even if its little or nothing i have the othr black projectors and i CANNOT see ANYTHING theres is like no output i know apc isnt that great eithr but hoping i can get them atleast to drive with HIDs in low beam. Now im stuck using my high beams only
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grow the @!#$ up, if you dont have the pic he needs why bother replying
heres some, pretty sure they are what you need, scroll bout half way down, cant miss em, lows and brights, youll be able to tell
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/559749
hope that helps
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picture are of the matrix one, he wants pics of the apc one to see if their lighting is good!
I also have the matrix projector with HID in them and like you, the light output is really bad!
And i've been around asking for the apc output quality and everytimes, i got told that the apc is way better....
so as soon as i have 100$ to spend, i'll buy the apc one (only 60$ on ebay) shipping to canada is 45 tho... but still cheaper than anyone else over ebay.
If you get them, post pics.
I hate to tell you this but you're not really going to notice improved light output with the APC projectors either. I've actually tried both on my car and finally settled for the Matrix ones based on looks alone.
If you want decent lighting with projectors, I'd honestly advise that you save up your cash and splurge for a good custom job. Sure it'll cost ya, but the end result should be light years ahead of that basic aftermarket crap (especially if you go with HIDs).

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i dunno man, here is what WannaBzee told me
WannaBzee (aka BadAceDesign) wrote:Magik1109 wrote:hey, how is the lighting with your new projector?
I have the matrix one like your old one and i'm considering these to replace my matrix one, since the matrix lighting is real crap!!!
let me know, thanx!
The new ones I have are much, much better output than the matrix ones.
i'll probably still try these out and if I dont like it, at least i'll have a set of spare headlight while i'm getting the other one modded with real projector....
60.00 on ebay? i didnt find them any cheaper then like 120 on ebay. maybe thats just black tho i hate the chrome loook
it pisses me off i have friends with projectors.. diff cars of course my friend has an eclipse and he has cheap ebay projectors and they light up the road SOO much

damnin why cant mine do that . we both paid the same and i even have 8k HID and his are still brighter and no its not cuz the kit is 8k
WannaBzee (aka BadAceDesign) wrote:Jrs Z wrote:search 
grow the @!#$ up, if you dont have the pic he needs why bother replying
heres some, pretty sure they are what you need, scroll bout half way down, cant miss em, lows and brights, youll be able to tell
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/559749
hope that helps
well sorry for posting so much. i checked out your site any light will be bright when u take a straight picture of it.lol i need a piece of the road. i notice uve had 2 sets of projectors chrome ones ( ihave the same style now but in black) and u have the black apc ones also which did u like more did u notice any difference. are you able to drive with the low beams actually on?
the new black ones are MUCH brighter than my old chrome ones
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apc projectors suck balls. i had them but never installed them. i let my friend use them for a day and they just suck. if its raining you have better luck driving w/ the lights off
i had 80 watt bulbs in mine and i could see , but i could see alot better with my driving lights on also
hid's from what i remember were the only way to get alot of light from them
the bulbs you are using, they may be 8000k but that is only the color or "whiteness" not how bright they are.. if the wattage of your bulbs is still the stock 50-65 watts.. that's probably why.. try these 100W bulbs
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i had the apc projectors and sold them for some black e bay ones. talk about a mistake. them black e bay ones sucked.
my apcs i had on for a year or so. i could at least see the road.
i also was using silvania silverstar bulbs.
then i put my stock headlight housings in and realized being able to see is "cool".
SOSracer wrote:the bulbs you are using, they may be 8000k but that is only the color or "whiteness" not how bright they are.. if the wattage of your bulbs is still the stock 50-65 watts.. that's probably why.. try these 100W bulbs click here
these are junk!!!!!!
real hid is about 35w and light up MUCH better than these ebay crap.
I have 4300K HID in mine and its better than with regular bulb, but i would like to get more output too. I will give a try with those apc one....
but the 60.00 ones are chrome i need a nice set of black ones.. ya my ebay ones suckkkkkk i need to get some apc ones i guess so i can atleast drive .. my HID are verryyyy bright when i put them as my high beams even tho they are 8k everyone will say its not as bright blah blah .. but anyway anyone with th apc's hitting the road?
yeah, i know. the black are more expensive. APC doesn't make black. the black all over ebay are knonk off brand, but still light up better then the matrix (that what i got told). I wonder if the chrome one apc style is as good as real apc!!!!
I have the apc with HID's pretty good you can see some pictures on my car domain website
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/325168/5
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are these real APC or the knock off apc style??
apc does make real black ones.. last time i checked but who knows
Okay...quick question...im not sure if im following this....the light output is okay with HIDS? i got hids (no installed yet) im waiting to get projectors...but if the out put is crap i dont what to waste my money...i guess i want to know how is the light output with hids? thanks.
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and yes i see "hid's from what i remember were the only way to get alot of light from them " im just double checking
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BlinkHero wrote:Okay...quick question...im not sure if im following this....the light output is okay with HIDS? i got hids (no installed yet) im waiting to get projectors...but if the out put is crap i dont what to waste my money...i guess i want to know how is the light output with hids? thanks.
i bought projectors and they sucked.. i then bought HIDS.. then they too also sucked..lol its my actual cheap fake round glass wanna be "projector"... i havent been able to use my projector i dont expect an ebay pair of headlights to be like a stock bmw.. but atleast i wanna see the road WITH HID.. like i said my friend has an eclipse he bought a pair of headlights on ebay his are amazing even with stock bulbs it lights up alot..