Am i the only one thinking the cockpit screams X-wing fighter?
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if i had the money to buy it, shed be sealed in a vacuum chamber, void of dust and any of the contaminents, with walls of glass dozens of feet thick. no way in hell id ever do anything with that car.. id be too scared to touch it lol
very nice indeed.
but i will take a modded ZR1 lol

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Jookycola wrote:Am i the only one thinking the cockpit screams X-wing fighter?
IIRC the X-wing cockpit opens the other way. (Hinges behind the seat, not in front)

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What makes it worth 2mill?
I mean, a car company with deep enough pockets create a car with astonishing power, release it to be sold, and say, "Hey, and by the way, we want 2.6mill for it!"
Maybe it's because it's so early in the morning that my mind is thinking like this, but I simply don't understand how a vehicle can be worth 2.6mill. Hell, even the Bugatti is way overpriced. I guess people who are willing to pay that much for a car only buy it for exclusivity.
/end rant
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Jonathan Pike wrote:Is it a Ariel Atom on steroids?
My thoughts exactly.
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Gutty96 wrote:Jookycola wrote:Am i the only one thinking the cockpit screams X-wing fighter?
IIRC the X-wing cockpit opens the other way. (Hinges behind the seat, not in front)
You're right but not how it opens, how it's designed. I love it really. But my gripe with cars like this is no windows that roll down. They might fun to play with but for practical things you do everyday like paying a toll, drive-thrus, ATM machines, you'd have to open the entire top just to do those things. and IMHO that's just lame.
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Jookycola wrote:Gutty96 wrote:Jookycola wrote:Am i the only one thinking the cockpit screams X-wing fighter?
IIRC the X-wing cockpit opens the other way. (Hinges behind the seat, not in front)
You're right but not how it opens, how it's designed. I love it really. But my gripe with cars like this is no windows that roll down. They might fun to play with but for practical things you do everyday like paying a toll, drive-thrus, ATM machines, you'd have to open the entire top just to do those things. and IMHO that's just lame.
practical? c'mon man its a 2.6 million dollar car. lol
i fail to see why the car costs that much.. i tried reading the article about it but the translation is borderline engrish.
its poweroutput is rather low too.. ~760hp out of a twin turbo V12? something is amiss here..
I'd rather the new veyron ss (look it up I'm not joking about the ss bit)

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Eternal wrote:What makes it worth 2mill?
I mean, a car company with deep enough pockets create a car with astonishing power, release it to be sold, and say, "Hey, and by the way, we want 2.6mill for it!"
Maybe it's because it's so early in the morning that my mind is thinking like this, but I simply don't understand how a vehicle can be worth 2.6mill. Hell, even the Bugatti is way overpriced. I guess people who are willing to pay that much for a car only buy it for exclusivity.
/end rant
Yeah, but at least the Bugatti has an established name, is advertising over 1000hp (pretty unheard of for a street car), and hit one of the top street car speed records of 259mph. Sure it isn't worth 1 million, but still. The Veyron at least has accolades to use. This thing is 2.6 million, and is only 720hp and from a company most have never even heard of? You can buy a ZR1, mod the s*it out of it and hit easily over 800hp, for 10% of the cost of this thing.
So, I agree with what you're saying
You went and looked that right up didn't you

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I think people have a misunderstanding of why a vehicle is "worth" a certain price.
I once read an article that said Bugatti (aka Volkswagen) actually loses money on every Veyron they sell.
The raw materials and the people employed to build a car are only a faction of the money that is put into producing a car.
The countless man hours put into research to make a 1000hp street legal road car capable of safely reaching speeds of 250+mph im sure is quite expensive. Not to mention to then sell that car with a warrenty, to a very limited market.
Thats still only scrapping the surface of the money that is put into developing a supercar.
This new car might be overpriced, but to start from scratch with a new company and develop a car like that with a limited market, they probably need to sell it for that price to make a profit...hell to just break even.
PS. The Veyron didn't hit 259mph and is not the worlds fastest production car, the SS version is.
Veyron = 253mph
SCC Areo = 256mph
Veyron SS = 267mph
SS or not it must be one hell of a kick in the pants!
I should also add that when you look at power to weight ratios the story plays out like this.....
Tramontana = 1 hp:3.88 lb
Veryron = 1 hp:4.49 lb
So in theory, while the 0-60 is slower (probably due to the lack of AWD) this should be faster than a Veyron.
newt wrote:I think people have a misunderstanding of why a vehicle is "worth" a certain price.
I once read an article that said Bugatti (aka Volkswagen) actually loses money on every Veyron they sell.
The raw materials and the people employed to build a car are only a faction of the money that is put into producing a car.
The countless man hours put into research to make a 1000hp street legal road car capable of safely reaching speeds of 250+mph im sure is quite expensive. Not to mention to then sell that car with a warrenty, to a very limited market.
Thats still only scrapping the surface of the money that is put into developing a supercar.
This new car might be overpriced, but to start from scratch with a new company and develop a car like that with a limited market, they probably need to sell it for that price to make a profit...hell to just break even.
PS. The Veyron didn't hit 259mph and is not the worlds fastest production car, the SS version is.
Veyron = 253mph
SCC Areo = 256mph
Veyron SS = 267mph
267! That's what I was thinking. My bad, lol
newt wrote:I should also add that when you look at power to weight ratios the story plays out like this.....
Tramontana = 1 hp:3.88 lb
Veryron = 1 hp:4.49 lb
So in theory, while the 0-60 is slower (probably due to the lack of AWD) this should be faster than a Veyron.
Does your "theory" not factor in aerodynamics? One of the things Bugatti spent a @!#$ ton of hours researching and testing to make it get to those speeds? Power and weight aren't the only things to factor in at those speeds, bub.
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newt wrote:I think people have a misunderstanding of why a vehicle is "worth" a certain price.
I once read an article that said Bugatti (aka Volkswagen) actually loses money on every Veyron they sell.
The raw materials and the people employed to build a car are only a faction of the money that is put into producing a car.
The countless man hours put into research to make a 1000hp street legal road car capable of safely reaching speeds of 250+mph im sure is quite expensive. Not to mention to then sell that car with a warrenty, to a very limited market.
Thats still only scrapping the surface of the money that is put into developing a supercar.
This new car might be overpriced, but to start from scratch with a new company and develop a car like that with a limited market, they probably need to sell it for that price to make a profit...hell to just break even.
PS. The Veyron didn't hit 259mph and is not the worlds fastest production car, the SS version is.
Veyron = 253mph
SCC Areo = 256mph
Veyron SS = 267mph
What you said makes a lot of sense. Also, what JL Audio said does too.
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JLAudioCavalier wrote:newt wrote:I should also add that when you look at power to weight ratios the story plays out like this.....
Tramontana = 1 hp:3.88 lb
Veryron = 1 hp:4.49 lb
So in theory, while the 0-60 is slower (probably due to the lack of AWD) this should be faster than a Veyron.
Does your "theory" not factor in aerodynamics? One of the things Bugatti spent a @!#$ ton of hours researching and testing to make it get to those speeds? Power and weight aren't the only things to factor in at those speeds, bub.
Power to weight ratio is hardly a "theory", neither is anything else that I said...those are facts.
Does that Tramontana really look like it will have poor areodymanics to you?
I don't really care if it turns out to be slower, but it does however have F1, open wheel racecar, inspired body work.....so odds are it won't be a flying brick.
PS. Who the @!#$ is bub?
newt wrote:JLAudioCavalier wrote:newt wrote:I should also add that when you look at power to weight ratios the story plays out like this.....
Tramontana = 1 hp:3.88 lb
Veryron = 1 hp:4.49 lb
So in theory, while the 0-60 is slower (probably due to the lack of AWD) this should be faster than a Veyron.
Does your "theory" not factor in aerodynamics? One of the things Bugatti spent a @!#$ ton of hours researching and testing to make it get to those speeds? Power and weight aren't the only things to factor in at those speeds, bub.
Power to weight ratio is hardly a "theory", neither is anything else that I said...those are facts.
Does that Tramontana really look like it will have poor areodymanics to you?
I don't really care if it turns out to be slower, but it does however have F1, open wheel racecar, inspired body work.....so odds are it won't be a flying brick.
PS. Who the @!#$ is bub?
You apparently :p

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