Spent the better part of the day unstringing the 2.2 harness to seperate out the wires coming from the C100 connector and underhood fuse box so that I can integrate them into the 3400 harness... the harness is seperated into 2 sections, those wires coming from the C100/Fuse panel and those that don't... Also had to make a license plate bracket for the Cav... stupid fix-it tickets

Free zip ties FTW





After I did that, sat down and started working on what wires that come from those connectors go to the PCM plugs on the 2.2 computer.. Have all but 4 narrowed down. I'm also sure that 1 or 2 wires may not have made it into the right bundles... From there tried to match 'em up to existing locations on the 3400 harness, got lost at the 3400 fuse panel plug...



Once I have all the wires sorted out, I'll put a post up in the thread in third gen forum with what goes to what and where...

looks like fun!


Desert Tuners

“When you come across a big kettle of crazy, it’s best not to stir it.”

Ahh..... now you're down to the hard part.

Kardain wrote:yeah I read it, and if it is still too low, I still have the other half of the upper n-bod mount that I can rig up to work (it sits a bit higher than the J mount... not quite at that point yet

Look at the piece from the N-body. It doesn't bolt on the same. I'm going to speak to my brother-in-law about setting up a program on the CNC to make the new piece I designed. Once I get it done, I'll send you the info.

Carl Tremblay wrote:we design a special plates brackets on the drougui's car for the upper engine mount. with this pieces, we use the 2.2 urethane upper engine mount and it's bolt on the engine.

see the V6 3.4 engine swap on the performance forum for pics.

Yeah, I saw that. It's a nice clean way to use the Alero type mount on the 3400 without changing out the frame rail portion of the mount on the J-body. However, Kardain and I are using the older style mount, and already have the engines in the car with it. The adapter I'm making is going to be exactly like the aluminum piece from this mount, but with an offset. Either one will be a clean mount that looks factory. I'm sure people will be interested in your plate for future swaps.

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Look at the piece from the N-body. It doesn't bolt on the same.

main difference is instead of the bolts coming through the top, they go through the frame rail... overall length/width is the same, in your opinion wouldn't it be easier to drill a couple holes through the frame rail and bolt it there?

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Once I get it done, I'll send you the info.

Cool beans

Ok, off to go play with more wires

nice man. wiring harness seperation is looking good. have fun sodering and heat shrinking. itsgonna be TONS of fun and you know it

Long time no updates

true, true.

time for an update, then....

Now keep in mind that I've been having to work around the weather... IDK why, but its more like November than June <shrugs>

As you may or may not know, I’m taking a hiatus from JBO to focus more attention on the Fire so I can get her running… however, its been a couple weeks, and I have some updates to share.

When I last left off, the car kind of looked like this:



June 7:

03+ crush guard came in, so I removed the other one… It was the size of the box that made it upcharged to 64 lbs… being Styrofoam, weight reduction FTW



As did the turn signals (they compliment my LED bulbs nicely)



There was another box, but I’ll save that one for later.

Think I finished mapping out the wiring on the harnesses… I refuse to do that again

Just need to double check it all on paper…

Also ordered the 3400 throttle cable (GM part # 22619740) and an 03+ hood striker.

June 8:

Mmm… Free stereo stuff is nice. Alpine 400w Class D Amp (while yes, this is not part of the engine swap, I promised progress)



Strung the harness to the engine. It appears that in 2002, a couple things may have changed… hmm… EGR valve plug is different (99-2001 is the same, 2002+ is different). I’m missing a couple plugs as well. Looks like I get to add that to my harness and just hardwire the f-er’s in in stead of chasing back the wires)

Ordered 2k3 headlights

Worked more on the paper verification process on the harness.

June 9:

Put the harness on hold for a day (rain = ick)

Started a new speaker box (ditching the dual subs for a single for now), ran out of MDF though (cut all the pieces for one, but it didn’t fit (too tall)… so I’m going to finish it up and sell it… 1.7 cubic foot ported)

And an amp rack (still need a ½” plexi piece and a filler for the rear part)



Need to secure the rack and get some carpeting for it.

After everything is done on paper with the harness, I have to run the wires from here:



To here:



June 10:

More work on the harness… no pics

June 11-15:

Finished up extending the harness



My heat gun grew legs and walked away. I have 70 or so wires (I lost track) that I need to heatshrink and no heat gun.

Here’s what’s left of my donor harness when I got done





Next up, start splicing in the J C100 connector and splicing in the extension to the existing 3400 harness.

June 16:

ID’d the following wires that need to be spliced:





Working on the last bits, then triple check time

June 18:

I dub thee the FrankenFire



Now we’re talking mistaken identities here… 03+ front, 97 rear and a 3400 under the hood

June 19

Went and picked up the 03 Fire grilles (sorry, no pic… yet)

Also started on the harness extension part

First though, these 2 made sure that I was entertained for the 5 hours that I was working on the 1 plug extension:





Actually 5 hours, 41 minutes, but who’s counting….



And a test fit:



Oops. Too long, but that’s coo. I’d rather have it be too long than too short (insert dirty innuendo here)

I really gotta find that heat gun now…

June 20:

Harness extension pt 2 done. Found the heat gun too . Took me 3 hours for this part (had a groove thing going)



Had a couple extra wires in the 2k2 harness… I’ll ID those later.

Here’s a better shot of the LED bulb in the turn housing as well



I'm planning on having the wiring done this weekend, then aside from a couple "small" parts, she's ready to crank over...

if I don't have a list I go all willy-nilly and can't get one thing done before starting on another

Here's what I need to finish before I crank her over:

4) Remove 2.2 throttle cable (read: grab and yank) and install 3400 throttle cable <-- meh. GMPD is taking their sweet time on this part.
5) Install diff insert
6) put trans back together and install, reinstall CV axles <-- depends on how long 5 takes
6) Remove dash, instrument cluster, tear apart IC and install new gauges <-- want the car off jackstands first, meaning need to finish 5 & 6
7) rebend AC lines <-- same
8 ) make new PS lines <-- same
8a) Order dual cooling fan (junkyard special) <-- I'm gonna see how long I can get away w/ 1 fan
9) extend Evap tank vacuum line <-- trip to hardware store
10) install downpipe, cut back existing exhaust and get a temporary exhaust pipe (one of those bendy ones) <-- need trans in first so I can route the shift cables
12) drink beer <-- all the time
13) top off all fluids, install battery, turn key and cross fingers *note* get vid camera ready <-- sometime after the trans goes in
19) drink more beer <-- whee
20) Success



So that’s it for now… I’ll check back with more





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so, I'm sending you a bunch of wires and connectors and such... because I want a harness just in case.

LOL

j/k!


Looks great bro! keep up the good work!


Desert Tuners

“When you come across a big kettle of crazy, it’s best not to stir it.”

Id hang myself with all those wires probably. Nice work so far, Most organized progress thread evar.

I wish you luck when you go to start it. Hopefully all that wiring is a one time job. lol

Jarett... um, no

Matt, the thought has crossed my mind (several times)

Lemur -- took it 1 at a time, so they all match up, except for the 3 extras.

Man it's starting to look sexy!

Shadowfire... I think I managed to get the P/N for the fascia hold down brackets:

GMPD wrote:22692866 passenger side front bumper impact bar bracket, attaches to fascia.
22692867 driver side front bumper impact bar bracket, attaches to fascia.

June 21:

First a recap... I already have 6 Cyberdyne gauges in my possession... Volt, A/F, Oil Pressure, Water Temp, Fuel, Outside Air Temp... here is 7 & 8 (as if I needed more red glowy things in my car)





Speedo and tach. Speedo has some functions on it... not sure what they are yet. Tach has a programmable shift light on it.

I'll probably jump ahead in the list and start working on these till the rest of the parts get here... just have to be careful taking out the dash since the car's still on stands.

June 22:

Harness extension done, ran, ziptied. Just need some big ass loom to fit it.

Later that day:

Hmm.... bad news.

I have to remap out the wiring @ the LA1 fuse panel connector.

For some reason, it doesn't match up with the pinout I have

Possible bad news....

Now I have to reverify that the PCM pinouts are the same, which means I may have to redo the whole harness extension. After cross-referencing years on the fuse panel plug, its a 2003 harness, not a 2002

June 23:

Fuel lines hooked up

PCM outputs verified as OK.

Started on the c100 splicing, meaning disregard the last chart I posted. Its wrong… kinda

June 24:

Couldn’t work because it decided to rain/hail... all @!#$ing day

June 25:

Here’s the mess of wiring:



Got out my trusty laptop:



Only got 5 wires done before I got a tad frustrated (I still need to prune the harness of the autotrans stuff and run all the J stuff where it needs to go – ABS, various PCM wires, etc).

So, what do I do when I’m frustrated? Something destructive. Removed the dash



I have a few more goodies up my sleeve, revealed later though….

keep up the good work man! wiring that much can be a Pain in the A.. i know how your feeling..... i hope everything works out for ya in the end, you do realize a quick stop @ diyautotune.com could cut down the wiring nightmare eh.


watch for flying sparks!!!

alot of the wiring nightmare is just for the basic engine functionality, and also, I'm going for full (mostly) obd2 compliance -- car needs to be able to pass emissions, meaning they jack into the OBD2 port...

Kardan...you have much bigger balls than I. I would never take on that kind of project. Major props.



PRND321 Till I DIE
Old Motor: 160whp & 152ft/lbs, 1/4 Mile 15.4 @88.2
M45 + LD9 + 4T40-E, GO GO GO

Front bumper arrives



Pruned out everything from the J harness that I don’t need, leaving this (a couple sensor plugs and a few to the PCM as well as a couple grounds):



Also got to listen to the new night DJ play Big and Rich: “Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy) back to back to back for 3 hours (I’m not kidding either…..)

wish I was up there to lend a hand buddy

looking good though!


Desert Tuners

“When you come across a big kettle of crazy, it’s best not to stir it.”

Its smooth as butter right now, aside from some parts I'm waiting on

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Test fit of front bumper (its just the upper studs on each side holding it up). Still need to get the center brackets:

looking good!!!

btw, you have a box on its way to you




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diff insert install time



So, finished up the last bits of wiring (save a random sensor/ground wire) and started work on reassembling the trans.

Diggin' the progress!

Good job dude, you seem to be moving a lot quicker than I would have lol...



" To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous. "

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Also got to listen to the new night DJ play Big and Rich: “Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy) back to back to back for 3 hours (I’m not kidding either…..)

report it...unless one of the members died or something momentus to warrant it, its against fcc regs to play the same song more than 2 times in an hour....


in regards to the engine work....damn


o and:









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