John Piparo wrote:You guys on this site are getting horrible, nothing nice to say when 99% of you don't have anywhere near as much effort put forth. You can deny that fact if you'd like, but even if this car isn't the well sought after "clean j-body" look that everyone here so loves, he's a car enthusiast just like the rest of us so why all the hating? In case you haven't noticed, this guy changes his mind alot, and ain't afraid to tear his car back apart, so I don't think that long-term durability and perfection is necessary. Doing that much fiberglass work isn't exactly easy, and from the pics you guys are seriously ruthless to be pointing out little imperfections, especially if you know anything at all about body work. When the seats go in, and its all said and done, I'm sure it'll look very trick. Until then, I hope all goes well and I look forward to seeing the finished product.
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This site is filled with a bunch of immature people. It's no wonder respectable people like njhk are leaving. It is a shame because there are people on here with not only respect, but talent like broughtdownkustoms, big poppa, rosario, john piparo, etc...
People like wrenchmonkey are the ones that are bringing this sites respectability down. There was NO REASON whatsoever for you to bring broughtdownkustoms product he sold you into this thread. I don't care if he sent it back to you in 15 different pieces. The sole purpose of this thread is to comment on the interior he has redone that in fact is obviously still in the works. If some of you don't like it and feel he needs to improve in areas than there is a little thing called "constructive criticism." Now back to the topic at hand....
I think it looks good so far and am curious as to what it will look like when completely finished. I'm curious, since you have the digital guages directly behind the steering wheel what are the guages in the center of the counsel?
Tom DiGrazia wrote:John Piparo wrote:You guys on this site are getting horrible, nothing nice to say when 99% of you don't have anywhere near as much effort put forth. You can deny that fact if you'd like, but even if this car isn't the well sought after "clean j-body" look that everyone here so loves, he's a car enthusiast just like the rest of us so why all the hating? In case you haven't noticed, this guy changes his mind alot, and ain't afraid to tear his car back apart, so I don't think that long-term durability and perfection is necessary. Doing that much fiberglass work isn't exactly easy, and from the pics you guys are seriously ruthless to be pointing out little imperfections, especially if you know anything at all about body work. When the seats go in, and its all said and done, I'm sure it'll look very trick. Until then, I hope all goes well and I look forward to seeing the finished product.
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This site is filled with a bunch of immature people. It's no wonder respectable people like njhk are leaving. It is a shame because there are people on here with not only respect, but talent like broughtdownkustoms, big poppa, rosario, john piparo, etc...
People like wrenchmonkey are the ones that are bringing this sites respectability down. There was NO REASON whatsoever for you to bring broughtdownkustoms product he sold you into this thread. I don't care if he sent it back to you in 15 different pieces. The sole purpose of this thread is to comment on the interior he has redone that in fact is obviously still in the works. If some of you don't like it and feel he needs to improve in areas than there is a little thing called "constructive criticism." Now back to the topic at hand....
I think it looks good so far and am curious as to what it will look like when completely finished. I'm curious, since you have the digital guages directly behind the steering wheel what are the guages in the center of the counsel?
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Wrench Monkey eh.....
This would be my first time acting like this in someone elses post. OTHERWISE i offer help to anyone i can. Its a shame you dont do the same. I have EVERY right to be upset with Mike Weigand. I appreciate his offer at painting my bezel for me. Im sorry that you got butt hurt that i stand up for myself and dont just take it in the ass when i get screwed. Yeah i do have a post in the general forum regarding this bezel but Mike didnt man up and post in there so i brought it to him. If he had posted there i wouldnt have said anything in here but alas he did not.
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Wrench Monkey wrote:BroughtDownKustomz (Blue Ace) wrote:wrench monkey-ive been ignoring you, because im not going to argue over the internet and play games like you want me to but this is all im saying is that dude ur wacked out, everything you say is turned around 100% to just make me look bad. My car is done profesional, it looks very good in person, ask anybody on this site........... that has seen my car in person, its flawless. Sure the inside isnt absolutely perfect like it was popped out from a mold, u could never do that and come 10% as nice as that and how it came out, i litteraly made a whole interior out of scratch, not one factory panel was used, and theirs no skill their??? yup, heavy modifiers u see on tv, would have a VERY VERY hard time doing what i did. dont believe me? ask some1 that would know........... for you thinking everything is bondo, just proves u dont know sh!t about customizing, AND AS FAR AS GAPS IN THE SPEEDO, AND THE CENTER CONSOLE, ITS OBVIOUS DUDE THAT THE SH!T ISNT BOLTED IN, jesus chr!st, nice try but i think anybody would see that as being obvious. OHHH and Brought Down kustomz is a car club that i was president of, no buisness @ all, i havent done 1 fiberglass job in forever, ive never said that it was a buisness, ive made a few things before and tried to sell them. Its just people come to me "saying that they see i know how to fiberglass and ask if id do something". But its not like I have a store and do this for a living, i just turned 21, i work @ a body shop, im married, i have a kid coming, i own my own house, have 3 cars. I work hard to support my family, i dont have time to mess around doing fiberglass anymore, deff. no time to ever run a buisness.
and as far as the comment ricer, whats a tail light conversion, 19" chrome wheels, fully custom 1 off interior, everything is custom and done well, and thats ricer???? im pretty sure if u post a picture of your car on here i can along with others pick out whos the ricer. Ricer describes bolt ons, sh!t u buy from auto zone, spinners, muffler tips, neons, stickers, their arent to many things on my car that u can just bolt on, and their deff. aint just one thing u can buy at auto zone. Anyways we own F'n CAVALIERS..... their not fast, IMO (this is just my opinion) to dump 3 grand in a cavalier (which is worth more than your car prob.) and hope for the best to get it in the 14"s or high 13"s is a totaly waste of money, thats why i own a cavalier for car shows, not to think im a hard a$$ and drive around town like every other kid and burn your tires out at every light, thats more of a ricer imo.
And as far as trophys, you pay for them??? if thats how you think of it then, your obviously not at the level to where some people are. When you work hard and you compete to beat cars at your level it becomes a challange, a trophy is just like any other sport, hockey players and pro sports players fight all season long and work their @$$ off for a trophy. Its about respect, and showing whos best. I enter big shows, where you face best of the best. It gets very personal, esp. when your spend all the money traveling out of town every weekend, staying in hotels, ect it is a hobby but then is a very serious hobby, just trying to reach your dreams of showing the world what you have done.
and as far as magazines, and the tv commerical remark that it doesnt mean you have a nice car?, thats one of the biggest accomplishments for a car builder is to make magazines, to be recongnized. People again that are at the level where i am check your local gas stations and grocery stores every month, to find a picture of your car. And thats nothing to be proud of?, and that means o well i must of got lucky that they have a close up & spread on my car when really it is a peice. The things ive accomplished not to many people on this site has done.
JuggaloZeke- not yet man im going to though!
Point A. You call yourself a professional. How long have you been doing bodywork. There a guys that have been doing body work for numerous years and that what is called a professional.
Point B. Me sayin bondo meaning i dont know @!#$ about customizing. Customizing meaning what? That i cant do bodywork. True i dont know how to do bodywork but i do know how to do transmissions swaps, turbo kits, build motors, all mechanical @!#$, as well as electrical installs like stereos, alarms, remote starts etc, etc. So far the only thing i havent done is my dash bezel.
Point C Ricer.... Bolt ons= ricer since when? and i do post tons of pix of my car... The only pix ppl dont like are because i chose function over form on my license plate OTHERWISE my car is a very clean example of a 98 z24 which i kept as a CAR not a piece of bodywork that is meant to sit in a garage collecting dust. Cars are meant to be drove not sit. ESPECIALLY cavaliers
Point D Trophies... Long story short im not one to have a "Show" car. Speed is my thing and until you drive a quick car you wouldnt understand. I used to do "show" but i lost all interest once i had a turbo.
Point E. Magazines Please show me what magazines YOUR CAR has been in that would be at every gas station and grocery store
And i do appreciate the offer of painting my bezel. Let me think about it.
Like i posted before some of what i said was harsh and i do realize it now. I hate that this site is so hateful of so many things. And i try like hell to not fall into it i was just very upset with the outcome of my bezel if you can understand.
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Tom DiGrazia wrote:People like wrenchmonkey are the ones that are bringing this sites respectability down.
another newb talking sheit
Monkey has done nothing but positive things for the JBO since he's joined, he's never ripped off another JBO member, he's helped countless times on many JBO member's cars, and he's done his best to help any JBO member the best that he can. He also has a legitimat argument with Mike, and has full right to express it.
You, on the other hand, what have you done for the JBO?
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I have done my fair share of glass work, i know its hard. So the people knocking the work try it yourself and post pics.
The new interior aint my cup of tea but it his work his time. Post more pics.
Jon
SpeedRacerZ wrote:Tom DiGrazia wrote:People like wrenchmonkey are the ones that are bringing this sites respectability down.
another newb talking sheit
Monkey has done nothing but positive things for the JBO since he's joined, he's never ripped off another JBO member, he's helped countless times on many JBO member's cars, and he's done his best to help any JBO member the best that he can. He also has a legitimat argument with Mike, and has full right to express it.
You, on the other hand, what have you done for the JBO?
"another newb talking sheit" These are the kind of remarks from people like you that are ruining this site, I may not have helped out a whole lot on this site but I never acted immature and I would always help "newbs" out where i could.
If he has a legitimat arguement this is not the place to bring it up, simple as that.
Tom DiGrazia wrote:SpeedRacerZ wrote:Tom DiGrazia wrote:People like wrenchmonkey are the ones that are bringing this sites respectability down.
another newb talking sheit
Monkey has done nothing but positive things for the JBO since he's joined, he's never ripped off another JBO member, he's helped countless times on many JBO member's cars, and he's done his best to help any JBO member the best that he can. He also has a legitimat argument with Mike, and has full right to express it.
You, on the other hand, what have you done for the JBO?
"another newb talking sheit" These are the kind of remarks from people like you that are ruining this site, I may not have helped out a whole lot on this site but I never acted immature and I would always help "newbs" out where i could.
If he has a legitimat arguement this is not the place to bring it up, simple as that.
i would agree, however mike never responded to him and explained himself as to why his bezel was made of nothing but complete body filler. mike said he had someone else do it and since someone else did it, that monkey was to send the bezel back to mike to fix the right way when in fact all he did was cut the tubes down to make them even and then sent it back to him. he didnt fix anything and thats what he is mad about. if mike would of came into the other thread and explained himself then it wouldnt of been brought in here, however mike feels the need that he doesnt have to explain himself and that just because he sold "150" of the and only had 2 or 3 bad complaints that he doesnt have to explain himself.
to z-speed cavi
just wanna make note on this. the guys that did the hearse. are pretty much the top 5 guys in the industry period. you noticed unique whips didnt do it, they called in the top guys in the business they had 5-8 guys working on the car for 7 days working 12-16 hour days and spent around 500-700 hours on the hearse. and even then you had fishmans headliner piece not work and they had to rebuild it. so even the pros screw up from time to time. alpines cars made for sema generally are made in a time frame of 4-6 months and on average cost over $100,000.00 to make so trying to compare mike to the alpine cars just doesnt work. allot of shops out there would have a hard time doing a complete custom fiberglass interior. not every shop out there will even do it and if they did it would cost you several thousand dollars easy. ive seen quotes from shops that do flawless work and your looking at over $1000 just to have them rebuild a pair of doorpanels. a custom dash will most likely run you in the 2-5k price range (im talking quality work)
to allot of other people
people need to grow up. i know how long it takes to work with fiberglass and i know how much is involved with getting a smooth finish so to just sit there and ridicule the man because it isnt perfect is just childish and imature. i have seen mikes work in magazines and i have seen his car sitting in summits store. so apparnetly enough people in the industry think his work is good enough, is it perfect? no but not allot of peoples is. is his work perfect? no i saw his first car and it had allot of flaws in it. and with this car he still has flaws but his work has gotten allot better. why can people not applaude improvement, they seem to only be able to criticize when its not perfect.
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sndsgood wrote:why can people not applaude improvement, they seem to only be able to criticize when its not perfect.
that how it works when not many peopel like the person posting.
Me personally, I think the steering wheel looks out of place, the square consil looks out of place (even if it doesn't sit as crocked when bolted down) but my one major complaint is the cheesy cheap looking white face gauges.
I have to give the guy some credit, I couldn't do all that
I completely agree with Sndsgood and Vince! Nice originality with the interior and complete vehicle bro! I am glad to see you are almost finished your current project. Good luck with everything man!
sndsgood wrote:to z-speed cavi
just wanna make note on this. the guys that did the hearse. are pretty much the top 5 guys in the industry period. you noticed unique whips didnt do it, they called in the top guys in the business they had 5-8 guys working on the car for 7 days working 12-16 hour days and spent around 500-700 hours on the hearse. and even then you had fishmans headliner piece not work and they had to rebuild it. so even the pros screw up from time to time. alpines cars made for sema generally are made in a time frame of 4-6 months and on average cost over $100,000.00 to make so trying to compare mike to the alpine cars just doesnt work. allot of shops out there would have a hard time doing a complete custom fiberglass interior. not every shop out there will even do it and if they did it would cost you several thousand dollars easy. ive seen quotes from shops that do flawless work and your looking at over $1000 just to have them rebuild a pair of doorpanels. a custom dash will most likely run you in the 2-5k price range (im talking quality work)
you totally blew my point out of proportion... mike claimed hes better then the pros I brought up a example and you completely messed it up. I simply stated a fact that if hes so pro he should start his own business. But with his business ethics he already has he will fall down quickly. doesnt matter if he made 150 or 1000 bezels. the issue wrench monkey is simply trying to prove is that mike @!#$ up and wasnt standing by his work. Seriously tho why would mike just cut the tubes down and say done. It should matter if its gonna kill his pocket. Customer satisfaction is what matters and if you cant accept that you need to learn some more. Like they always say the customer is always right
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this is retarded Im sorry if you have a problem with Mike talk to Mike none of the rest of us want to here you whining about it constantly, ya he screwed up people screw up. If you dont like him dont post simple as that. As for Mike car looks good not my type of work and such but looks good man there isnt to many people out there going all out and doing it themselves.
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Z Speed Cavi wrote:sndsgood wrote:to z-speed cavi
just wanna make note on this. the guys that did the hearse. are pretty much the top 5 guys in the industry period. you noticed unique whips didnt do it, they called in the top guys in the business they had 5-8 guys working on the car for 7 days working 12-16 hour days and spent around 500-700 hours on the hearse. and even then you had fishmans headliner piece not work and they had to rebuild it. so even the pros screw up from time to time. alpines cars made for sema generally are made in a time frame of 4-6 months and on average cost over $100,000.00 to make so trying to compare mike to the alpine cars just doesnt work. allot of shops out there would have a hard time doing a complete custom fiberglass interior. not every shop out there will even do it and if they did it would cost you several thousand dollars easy. ive seen quotes from shops that do flawless work and your looking at over $1000 just to have them rebuild a pair of doorpanels. a custom dash will most likely run you in the 2-5k price range (im talking quality work)
you totally blew my point out of proportion... mike claimed hes better then the pros I brought up a example and you completely messed it up. I simply stated a fact that if hes so pro he should start his own business. But with his business ethics he already has he will fall down quickly. doesnt matter if he made 150 or 1000 bezels. the issue wrench monkey is simply trying to prove is that mike @!#$ up and wasnt standing by his work. Seriously tho why would mike just cut the tubes down and say done. It should matter if its gonna kill his pocket. Customer satisfaction is what matters and if you cant accept that you need to learn some more. Like they always say the customer is always right
but he didnt say he was better then the pro's he said pro's would find it tough to do. and making a completly custom dash is tough wether you have done it once or 10x
dark. the reason im guessing for the white faced gauges is he cant afford it. hes not rich thats the reason why he has cheap audio he doesnt have allot of spare cash. he works at the body shop so paint and filler he can get probapby for free since his shop is sponsoring him.
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next time ill have to go get raped at the stealership by them putting a wrench up my ass
