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ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:18 PM
it may interest you to know that a Eaton TVS blower is currently in development for the cobaltss/redlines, should be a direct swap

this would unlock some serious potential in supercharged applications

Enjoy!



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Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:30 PM
Interesting. I wonder how much power this blower is gonna make.

Found Some Pics
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=91586&page=37



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Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:41 PM
pretty cool



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Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:11 PM
350 to 400whp



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Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:59 AM
yet another reason NOT to go w/ the gm s/c reflash - cannot tune for this beast!

BTW, if this thing really puts 350 to the wheels, you're totally in LS2 territory - most s/c dyno curves I've seen for eco motors have a broad tq curve - it'll hit like a V8! From there it's just a simple arguement of power:weight ratio

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Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:29 AM
now if only they can engrave L61 into it as opposed to LSJ



Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:49 AM
harrop has a 2300 s/c that was put a LSx powered solstice , it made over 1000whp , and was detuned to just over 800whp , the guy was still using the stock tires the solstice came with

guess its time to get another pcm , and put the stock tune in it







Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:23 PM
i would love to have that, providing i didnt have to buy the m62 to get all the parts to hook the damn thing up


hop on in i've got a J

Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:32 PM
whats the benefits of this and/or TVS?



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Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:01 PM
This might be a good way to spend some of my tax return




Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:24 PM
Viper98912 wrote:whats the benefits of this and/or TVS?


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just curious how much better this is supposed to b




Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Friday, February 08, 2008 5:57 AM
05xtremecav wrote:
Viper98912 wrote:whats the benefits of this and/or TVS?


x2
just curious how much better this is supposed to b


I didnt read the WHOLE cobaltss.net post, but if i understand it correctly, its basically just a higher flowing unit, capable of higher flow and therefore more hp per psi with less increase in IAT's



Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Friday, February 08, 2008 6:23 AM
So is this a new supercharger for our vehicles?
Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Friday, February 08, 2008 8:23 AM
think twin screw s/c like a kenny bell or whipple , but more efficient






Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Friday, February 08, 2008 10:32 AM
silver03cava wrote:So is this a new supercharger for our vehicles?


Well, its not a kit, but its being toted as a bolt on replacement for the M62 unit on the LSJ...so one would think it would also bolt on to a GMPP equiped eco cav



Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Friday, February 08, 2008 1:34 PM
That would be crazy. I bet its around 4,000 grand huh?
Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Friday, February 08, 2008 1:34 PM
silver03cava wrote:That would be crazy. I bet its around 4,000 grand huh?


4 grand **
Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Friday, February 08, 2008 1:36 PM
silver03cava wrote:
silver03cava wrote:That would be crazy. I bet its around 4,000 grand huh?


4 grand **


Sorry guys didnt see where it said somewhere around $2,250
Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Friday, February 08, 2008 1:38 PM
Quote:

Now for the really good news ...
We anticipate that the retail price will only be ~US$2250


reading>you



Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Friday, February 08, 2008 3:15 PM
ok thats cool so its just more efficent. makes sense. curious to see how much an improvement it actually is.



Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Friday, February 08, 2008 3:33 PM
The TVS is basically a 6th generation Eaton blower, they were announced at Sema last year but haven't made the way into production vehicles just yet. The 5th generation M62 is what is in the LSJ and L61 kits. This is a helical roots type supercharger. The TVS is a high helix type supercharger. Basically has something to do with the internals. As far as the benefits, its more boost at less rpms, with less heat, as well as less parasitic loss in a smaller package. The efficiency is nearly that of a turbo without any of the negatives. First production car to use one is the new 09 ZR1 vette. So you can be assured its a high performance item

This company Harrop is using a 1.32L TVS for the LSJ. Thats basically an M90 as far as blower displacement. Price is around 2200. As far as boost, from whats being said its more of a matter of if the engine itself can handle it, theres a pretty high potential with this. Castings for the prototype are being made right now, working unit for testing by prob end of this month, I would think they would be available for the public by May or June, just in time for the bash!





1989 Turbo Trans Am #82, 2007 Cobalt SS G85






Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Friday, February 08, 2008 4:44 PM
is there a possibility they would sell this charger with the normal kit, substituted for the m62?



hop on in i've got a J

Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Friday, February 08, 2008 5:41 PM
of course not, it's a upgrade. finally maybe more ss s/c guys will be hitting 12's because for some reason theres only a handful thats actually hit 12's




Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Friday, February 08, 2008 5:50 PM
Too bad HPT is a POOPY alternative for fuel correction in boosted applications when running that much boost. It can be done but not done right with the inaccuracy of manipulating the voltage input of a 1bar map. This supercharger is AWESOME but without a good tuning source for us Js its really not gonna get everything possible from it for the price. No way to fit another 4 injectors in there with the M62 let alone the TVS for an independent fuel supply. Very cool regardless.



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Re: ATTN those with GM ecotec supercharger
Friday, February 08, 2008 8:32 PM
Stand alone, something like megasquirt



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