Does anyone have this set up or know of anyone that does? With the boost cams as well? Just wondering what kind of performance people are seeing with a set up like that?
Thanks
Fill out your profile first.
If your talking about on an Ecotec then yes. There are at least 3 people with the Patriot Head and Comp Cams combo on their GM S/C cars. I know because I sold them their setups.
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Not sure what my profile has to do with this question.
Yes obviously its in regards to the Ecotec 2.2L in a cavalier. Team Vision, do you know what numbers your customers are seeing? are they upgrading their injectors at all?
of course they need to upgrade that injectors, not doing so is tom foolery
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Better question is he talking FI, or NA like PJ?
from the way hes putting it hes asking " does anyone have the gm supercharger kit and patriot performance head for the ecotec" and from that question he was askin if he could get a idea of power NOT guess on what there putting down for power with those mods. Then his other question was would the injectors that come with the m62 kit not stock would be enough.
simple answer is you should search in the member registry and see if there is anyone with those 2 listed mods.... then look to see if they have dyno numbers listed, if not contact them to see if they ever did dyno there setup. Im not tryin to be a asshat about it but it doesnt matter what others put down cause chances are if they have those mods they have other mods to go along with there setup to increase there power even more. So tryin to get a straight answer for just those 2 things is gonna be far to none.
as far as the injectors I believe there 36 lbs and should be good for that. unless you change pulley size then you may wanna upgrade.
another thing i would advise if your going to further modify beyond the limit of the s/c kits injectors I would advise getting a programmer such as HP Tuners. GM locked the supercharger flash so once you go beyond its limits then your screwed for tuning.
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duquette wrote:Not sure what my profile has to do with this question.
Yes obviously its in regards to the Ecotec 2.2L in a cavalier. Team Vision, do you know what numbers your customers are seeing? are they upgrading their injectors at all?
Because if you don't fill out your damn profile you will be bannernated.
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the person updated his profile and it seems like they are asking what the power output is roughly with the charger and the stage 2 patriot head with non-stock cams myabe (comp supercharger cams?)
whats the gain on even a n/a motor with just the installation of the stage 2 patriot head?
Yes i have info on my profile now, not sure what difference it will make. But i just want to know with the patriot head, s/c, comp cams, header, upgraded injectors and full exhaust what kind of power numbers people are seeing.
I already have the s/c, aftercooler/heat exchanger, cobalt stage 1 injectors and the 2.9" pulley. Also have a transmission cooler, header and b&m shift kit. Other than that my car is pretty much stock. I'm just wondering what its worth to get the patriot head as well as the comp cams, as I want to make the comp cams my next purchase.
I'm also am a she not a he. lol.
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because asking about the head and a m62 , is a GENERAL QUESTION , because you DID NOT SPECIFY WHAT MOTOR OR APPLICATION YOU ARE WANTING TO USE IT ON
so when you ask a general question , people look in your profil to see what car you have to see if they can help you out , in your case you had nothing , so its harder to help you
get it ? got it ? remember it , LOL
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whats the gain on even a n/a motor with just the installation of the stage 2 patriot head?
can't do just the head, have to HAVE to upgrade the injectors too
with the head, cams and injectors and some tuning I went from 14.9 @ 92mph to 14.0@ 96mph
if it makes this much of a difference on an n/a motor, I don't know why people are still asking if its good or not <shrug>
You don't HAVE to upgrade the injectors with the head swap, you just should.
I heard rumors from a couple guys I know with nothing but the head and gaining 12-16HP to the wheels.
The head and cams should net you 20-25HP on the supercharged application I would think, if not more. That may not seem like much but you have to remember that you will also be flowing more so as you up the boost you'll be packing more air in per PSI. The head is an additive mod...the more you do to help it, the more you gain from it.
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what can you do to help it?
|Forged 8.9:1 Wiseco Pistons|Forged Eagle Rods|HPTuners|60trim|Tial Wastegate|
|Precision Intercooler|2.5" Exhaust|2.5" Charge Pipes|630CC Mototron Injectors|
|Stock: Fuel Pump, Transmission, Manifold, TB, Head, Head Gasket, Ignition, Suspension...|
Intake, exhaust, cams to start.
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Thanks for your help. FlyinSkwirl I've seen your car on youtube. Very impressive. Great work. I was not questioning if the head would be a good upgrade or not, cause i know its a major upgrade from stock but I just want to hear what others have seen with this set up, I guess just to see if there's advice on it.
I know you might not think it or believe it, but I have done some research on this stuff. I have the set up that I have now because of the research I've done, I don't just buy something and slap it on my car not knowing what its doing to my car, I just thought maybe a site like this would have people full of knowlegde and willing to give a nice input to the idea instead of brute rationalizations. Also being that I'm a girl on top of it, I think thats pretty cool myself. I just want to broaden my knowledge on performance mods cause cosmetic modifications is something that comes easy, I am a detailer and installer and I also do part time modeling so I see alot of the car tuner world.
with that said I imagine I'll prolly come back to see more "bashes". Which makes me reluctant to return.
Thanks
they weren't really bashing you, they were trying to help you but its hard to help someone that has nothing in their profile
You take a women and X her by PSI devide the legs and you can then juice the car......LOL
