JUCNBST wrote:BuiltNBoosted wrote:He is giving you the best advice on the subject. You are just too thick headed and young to just like the rest of your generation to listen to someone who knows what they are talking about.
When you put the venom 400 it... you are essentially not adding power. Like they all said, you are adding fuel but not controlling it so you are taking the risk of doing damage. The venom 400 was something that you would look at, read, and think, man this thing looks cool and I bet it works... when it really doesnt work. Listen to the people telling you not to mess with that piece of crap and spend money on real parts. You will notice more of a gain from intake or exhaust instead of a small electric chip.
Plus you dont plan on keeping the car so why mod it? It is just a waste of money, put that in savings for whatever you want to buy after your done rockin your ln2 turd.
I'm keeping it as back up and winter. My next ride might be a project Supra or RX-7.
SHOoff wrote:Damian Corbeil wrote:To each his own. You obviously have the cash to do
"GM M45 Supercharger
2.5 charger pulley
AEM short Ram intake
RSM 57mm Throttle body
Cooling mist Alcohol injection kit
MD Pulleys Oversized Crank pulley
Turbo Tech Racing upper mount
Low resistance spark plug and coil springs
RKSport lower motor mount
Pacesetter Header w/2.50" exhaust w/Forza Tuning muffler
2.3 cam swap
Spec stage 2 clutch
Spec flywheel
Team Green LSD
42lb injectors
Custom tuning by me"
I do not. So a ten cent upgrade may be of no use to you, but to a kid who has little cash, its a big deal.
.10 cent upgrade will cost you more at 3 something a gallon and will give you well less than 1whp gain. Preventing you from having upgrades like those listed above. Save your cash and save up a bit for some basic upgrades, like Intake, Header and Exhaust.
Hence the on/off switch. On when at National Trails, off when going to school or work.
-Z Yaaaa- wrote:he has a 96... he cant tune it anyway.
Exactly, I might get a shift kit, if the price is right. But 96 is a crappy year for minor mods.
You are getting advice from people who have been around here for a LONG time and tried a lot of things and realized and tested what did and does not work and you are basically disregarding it.
This chip is not going to help you, just move on with it.
As for your MSD question, just stick with stock ignition, im running stock ignition still and probably make 400+
Damian Corbeil wrote:To each his own. You obviously have the cash to do
"GM M45 Supercharger
2.5 charger pulley
AEM short Ram intake
RSM 57mm Throttle body
Cooling mist Alcohol injection kit
MD Pulleys Oversized Crank pulley
Turbo Tech Racing upper mount
Low resistance spark plug and coil springs
RKSport lower motor mount
Pacesetter Header w/2.50" exhaust w/Forza Tuning muffler
2.3 cam swap
Spec stage 2 clutch
Spec flywheel
Team Green LSD
42lb injectors
Custom tuning by me"
I do not. So a ten cent upgrade may be of no use to you, but to a kid who has little cash, its a big deal.
Well, that was immature. All he did was pretty much tell you that youre wasting money; so if you are complaining about being a broke 16 year old then why are you dumping money into a car you dont even want?
Damian Corbeil wrote:I plan on making a toggle switch and a second route, basically a on/off. And flaming isn't a problem, "You did a IAT mod? LAME" "Your dissing a 16 year old driving a @!#$ty car? LAME!"
Also, why are you using your age as a factor to show youre ignorance? When i was 16 i knew plenty about cars, plus was able to mod them however i pleased despite only having a @!#$ty part-time job. The key is to save money and actually buy things that are worth buying.
Or... you can just buy some colored wire loom and one of those turbo whisters to go in your tail pipe to match the awesome power youre going to achieve with your resistor trick.
Eat my shift
No matter how you look at it a 96 2.2 auto will be a lame car if you don't spend quite a bit. If I were you would find a newer cav that's 5spd and sell that or swap it to 97+ ecm and a 5spd.... At least.
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I would suggest using sand in your intake to port the head. It worked great for me! Anyone have a link to the how to?
Damian, your local. Bring the car over and give me 100 dollars. Ill make it fast for you.... real fast.
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dcampbellz24 wrote:I would suggest using sand in your intake to port the head. It worked great for me! Anyone have a link to the how to?
this, cheapest easiest way to get the head flowing good, that's what you really wanna do to get that engine breathing better. you'll make tons of power after that.
Wow how long did that post go on for, before anyone realized it was a joke? Lol
When will people realize that more fuel does not mean more power... we aren't tuning diesels here...
99% of the cars on the road are already running rich, why? Because it's safe. Odd's are you'd make slightly more power with slightly less fuel NA.
Paying someone to install parts and bragging about it being fast, is like watching someone bang your wife and being proud to raise their kids.
Quite frankly I have my opinion set. I know a decent amount about cars. A dollar proportional to a horse or two is worth it to me. This conversation is becoming nothing more than people with conflicting ideas. Plus just recently the battery light came on and is flickering. It's still starting and charging though. The idle is getting rougher and the ticking in the top end has worsened. This car is a @!#$box officially. I currently have better things to do then argue. I have common Cavalier problems to worry about.
M2 wrote:Damian Corbeil wrote:To each his own. You obviously have the cash to do
"GM M45 Supercharger
2.5 charger pulley
AEM short Ram intake
RSM 57mm Throttle body
Cooling mist Alcohol injection kit
MD Pulleys Oversized Crank pulley
Turbo Tech Racing upper mount
Low resistance spark plug and coil springs
RKSport lower motor mount
Pacesetter Header w/2.50" exhaust w/Forza Tuning muffler
2.3 cam swap
Spec stage 2 clutch
Spec flywheel
Team Green LSD
42lb injectors
Custom tuning by me"
I do not. So a ten cent upgrade may be of no use to you, but to a kid who has little cash, its a big deal.
Well, that was immature. All he did was pretty much tell you that youre wasting money; so if you are complaining about being a broke 16 year old then why are you dumping money into a car you dont even want?
Damian Corbeil wrote:I plan on making a toggle switch and a second route, basically a on/off. And flaming isn't a problem, "You did a IAT mod? LAME" "Your dissing a 16 year old driving a @!#$ty car? LAME!"
Also, why are you using your age as a factor to show youre ignorance? When i was 16 i knew plenty about cars, plus was able to mod them however i pleased despite only having a @!#$ty part-time job. The key is to save money and actually buy things that are worth buying.
Or... you can just buy some colored wire loom and one of those turbo whisters to go in your tail pipe to match the awesome power youre going to achieve with your resistor trick.
I'm wasn't using my age factor to show my ignorance, I was using it to show that I don't care if a 35 year old man with $3000+ wrapped up in a Cavalier does some flaming. He probably TRIED small cheap performance mods and found them useless. Or he had his opinion set by someone else and just listened. I won't know if this works or not until I try it. But, this is no longer a concern because I have actual problems popping up, not performance questions.
Damian Corbeil wrote:Quite frankly I have my opinion set. I know a decent amount about cars. A dollar proportional to a horse or two is worth it to me. This conversation is becoming nothing more than people with conflicting ideas. Plus just recently the battery light came on and is flickering. It's still starting and charging though. The idle is getting rougher and the ticking in the top end has worsened. This car is a @!#$box officially. I currently have better things to do then argue. I have common Cavalier problems to worry about.
What you aren't understanding is you WILL NOT gain any power by tricking the engine into giving you more fuel. You WILL run rich, which WILL decrease power, and WILL decrease fuel economy. This isn't a performance mod, this is an ebay scam that has netted thousands of dollars because of ignorance like you're displaying. More fuel does not = more power. More fuel only gives you more power when you have more air to go with it, and even then the added fuel as to be at the correct ratio. Giving your ECU bad information doesn't allow it to do it's job.
This thread is proof that you don't "know a decent amount about cars."
You came here looking for us all to pat you on the back for being so brilliant as to reverse engineer a Venom 400. News flash, the entire internet automotive world has known this for years.
So, now that you've figured out that we don't think you're as brilliant as you think you are, it sounds like you either have a bad connection to the alternator, or your alternator is dieing. Refurbished units are only about $110 and it only takes a few hours to install depending on the engine.
Paying someone to install parts and bragging about it being fast, is like watching someone bang your wife and being proud to raise their kids.
Damian Corbeil wrote:M2 wrote:Damian Corbeil wrote:To each his own. You obviously have the cash to do
"GM M45 Supercharger
2.5 charger pulley
AEM short Ram intake
RSM 57mm Throttle body
Cooling mist Alcohol injection kit
MD Pulleys Oversized Crank pulley
Turbo Tech Racing upper mount
Low resistance spark plug and coil springs
RKSport lower motor mount
Pacesetter Header w/2.50" exhaust w/Forza Tuning muffler
2.3 cam swap
Spec stage 2 clutch
Spec flywheel
Team Green LSD
42lb injectors
Custom tuning by me"
I do not. So a ten cent upgrade may be of no use to you, but to a kid who has little cash, its a big deal.
Well, that was immature. All he did was pretty much tell you that youre wasting money; so if you are complaining about being a broke 16 year old then why are you dumping money into a car you dont even want?
Damian Corbeil wrote:I plan on making a toggle switch and a second route, basically a on/off. And flaming isn't a problem, "You did a IAT mod? LAME" "Your dissing a 16 year old driving a @!#$ty car? LAME!"
Also, why are you using your age as a factor to show youre ignorance? When i was 16 i knew plenty about cars, plus was able to mod them however i pleased despite only having a @!#$ty part-time job. The key is to save money and actually buy things that are worth buying.
Or... you can just buy some colored wire loom and one of those turbo whisters to go in your tail pipe to match the awesome power youre going to achieve with your resistor trick.
I'm wasn't using my age factor to show my ignorance, I was using it to show that I don't care if a 35 year old man with $3000+ wrapped up in a Cavalier does some flaming. He probably TRIED small cheap performance mods and found them useless. Or he had his opinion set by someone else and just listened. I won't know if this works or not until I try it. But, this is no longer a concern because I have actual problems popping up, not performance questions.
That's the thing we know it doesn't do anything. You ask if its a good idea we told you the truth and you didn't like it. And this is why I see guys always left dumb struck that their stock integra with a resistor and a header with and no exhaust got whooped by a stock cavalier or a stock exhaust integra with real work done.
Besides you have a 3spd ln2 there's no hope for that car outside of the realm that it will get decent gas mileage of you drive it right
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You come on here start a post asking about this mod. Once your told it is not worth it, you now say you have to try it for yourself.
Then why even create the post?
Damn it I'm 34, not 35!!
I did try alot of mods starting out. My current J's are not my first.
TPS-tec, moving the IAT for a colder reading (which was suppose to give more fuel) lmao was that wrong.
I never tried this one, because I already knew better.
FU Tuning
No Longer Screaming wrote:TPS-tec, moving the IAT for a colder reading (which was suppose to give more fuel) lmao was that wrong.
I never tried this one, because I already knew better.
Psh, just unplug your IAT... then the ECU will think it's -40F and make you super fast! It's flawless logic!
Paying someone to install parts and bragging about it being fast, is like watching someone bang your wife and being proud to raise their kids.
Transporter7220 wrote:No Longer Screaming wrote:TPS-tec, moving the IAT for a colder reading (which was suppose to give more fuel) lmao was that wrong.
I never tried this one, because I already knew better.
Psh, just unplug your IAT... then the ECU will think it's -40F and make you super fast! It's flawless logic!
don't forget to unplug that tps too, for that performance shifting anyway. Which that reminds me a resistor in your oat with eat your trans alive.
That will solve your b&m question too
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Damian Corbeil wrote:I know a decent amount about cars.
I call bull @!#$ on that one... you proved that in this thread.
For your information... I can't say I have ever tried a $1 mod on my car... I came here, read, researched, went off of what other members on here tried and found out that they dont do jack and I was better off saving for true mods.
I NEVER asked if I should, I DID ask if it was possible and how would I do it, I ASKED for info on how it would work. NOT people saying it won't work, and I know i'm being thick headed. I've read people say its useless and people say its the @!#$. Colt45 said that I will gain almost nothing, but still gave me the answer to my question. I DON'T GIVE A @!#$ ABOUT YOUR OPINIONS.
If you don't care about out opinions, then why are you on a forum?
Your age is starting to show very clearly now.
And you're right, you asked for info on how it would work, we clearly explained that it gives false information to your ECU, and the ECU reacts by dumping more fuel in than it should. This nets a rich mixture and gives you less power and worse fuel economy.
This has been repeated several times, but it isn't what you want to hear, so you keep ignoring the truth.
It will not give you any power gains, period.
What Cold45 saw was dyno error, not actual gains. You do understand error when it comes to measuring equipment right?... Who am I kidding... you still think more fuel = more power.
Paying someone to install parts and bragging about it being fast, is like watching someone bang your wife and being proud to raise their kids.
If you don't give a sh*t about our opinions than why did you post asking a question? You're just making yourself look like you have very little car knowledge.
just let him blow his @!#$ up and be gone....
