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Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Friday, July 10, 2009 7:51 PM
z yaaaa wrote:absolutely. thank you chris for a straight and EDUCATED answer.


yes but it wont help your traction, the hotter the street tire the worse the traction. you'd have to effectively keep the tire cooler for a hard compound. They get greasy as they heat up, where as radials and slicks operate the opposite. your arguing something as stupid as this thread. regardless if you are racing on a street compound tire street compound tire without tread it sucks, and will have zero traction with any decent amount of power.

why cant just someone say, damn phil that was a great answer and you are right? I am and thats that

if you could turn a street tire into a slick why are we all not buying 50$ tires and doing burnouts for a while to have "slicks?" because we don't it's as stupid a theory as this tread was



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Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Friday, July 10, 2009 7:58 PM
dear god MAN...were not aruging that street tires burnt the fuck down to bald are gods gift to drag racing. were simply saying that its debatable that because they are completely treadless (much like a drag slick) they have more contact patch grabbing the pavement and that in itself makes it better or equal to (certainly not worse) a brand new tire with thick treads.

yes, you are right. that slicks are the best. but thats it.



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Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Friday, July 10, 2009 9:17 PM
OMG...13 pages....really people? I stopped reading at page 10, I can take it no longer.







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Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Friday, July 10, 2009 9:57 PM
Qwibby {T3H Old QBE} wrote:Not defending Matt but mastering launching and driving of a 5 spd is tougher


this coming from someone who really cant do either.



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Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Saturday, July 11, 2009 2:55 AM
Joshua Dearman wrote:OMG...13 pages....really people? I stopped reading at page 10, I can take it no longer.


You should have stopped reading it at page 2. But now you're on to page 13.

You know you it's too late to turn back.







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Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:46 AM
99redz24 wrote:
Qwibby {T3H Old QBE} wrote:Not defending Matt but mastering launching and driving of a 5 spd is tougher


this coming from someone who really cant do either.


and you know?



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Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:10 AM
Wow - this thread alone will put me over my email quota...

My cat's breath smells like cat food...



Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:47 AM
Qwibby {T3H Old QBE} wrote:
z yaaaa wrote:absolutely. thank you chris for a straight and EDUCATED answer.


yes but it wont help your traction, the hotter the street tire the worse the traction. you'd have to effectively keep the tire cooler for a hard compound. They get greasy as they heat up, where as radials and slicks operate the opposite. your arguing something as stupid as this thread. regardless if you are racing on a street compound tire street compound tire without tread it sucks, and will have zero traction with any decent amount of power.

why cant just someone say, damn phil that was a great answer and you are right? I am and thats that

if you could turn a street tire into a slick why are we all not buying 50$ tires and doing burnouts for a while to have "slicks?" because we don't it's as stupid a theory as this tread was


Because you all have not learned the trick of SNOW TIRES yet.


It will come, in time.

Also, your "explanation" for rubber compound is great, if you were only looking at the demographic of under a "T" speed rating. For instance, BFG Traction T\A's do not behave this way, Nor do Gforece or Potenzas.



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Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Saturday, July 11, 2009 7:56 AM
i was just arguing for somthing to do and then had to go to work but all i was saying is that a bald street tire vs a newer street tire what is going to have more traction on a dry sticky surface?



Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Saturday, July 11, 2009 2:51 PM
Also you guys are forgetting a bald street tire 99% of the time is an old street tire. An old street tire is ashard as a hockey puck and wont stick for crap no matter how much or how little tread there is.

Snow tires are a softer compound compared to regular street tires cause there is less wear on them driving on snow. Guys use those on the track in the lower classes cause they stick amazing but are wore down to slicks after about 3 races and then guess what, they replace them cause they dont stick after that.

Why are we talking about tires anyways?



Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Saturday, July 11, 2009 7:06 PM
Because the 3800 swap is a good idea and he see's that now.

Chris



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13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08


Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:01 PM
^lol

Can we talk about how Almond joy's are better than Mounds?
Or how about Cheerios vs. Honey Nut Cheerios?
Shredded wheat vs. Frosted Shredded wheat?
Top vs. Bottom? lol


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Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:37 PM
@!#$ that^^

Always frosted shredded wheat. No question there



Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:27 PM
Mounds for sure....i dont want any nuts in my mouth!



Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:51 PM
Joshua Dearman wrote:^lol

Can we talk about how Almond joy's are better than Mounds?
Or how about Cheerios vs. Honey Nut Cheerios?
Shredded wheat vs. Frosted Shredded wheat?
Top vs. Bottom? lol


cheerios for the mother f $cking win.



Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:05 PM
FROSTED FLACKS!



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13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:22 PM
Or the real question, Shreddies.... Diamond or square?




Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:42 AM
wtf i like cinnamon toast crunch



Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:50 AM
@!#$ all of you! You can't @!#$ on lucky charms! That leprachaun will hex you!








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Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:07 AM
too much crown last night makes my head hurt less than this thread...



Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:21 AM
who needs drag radials anyways? they just give you worthless traction and help you make a good pass. but as long as you have goobs of power and you spin you tires all the way to the 60 foot, thats all that matters!!!

i like frosted flakes myself



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Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:06 AM
eff you all, shredded wheat when they used to fill the inside with fruit...that stuff can have my babies.done.
Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:56 PM
gtpsunfire wrote:too much crown last night makes my head hurt less than this thread...


mine too. . .



Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:02 PM
WWOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!



Re: why the 3800 swaps?
Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:24 PM
Honey Bunches of Oats in chocolate milk........... now thats good eatin'


And I've had my issues with 3rd gen V6 swaps myself.....but never bothered to ask.





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