I have $500 that I am looking to pour into the motor of my 2200 OHV and here is what I've got so far......
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Highflow cat
2.5" catback
Injen cold air intake
Underdrive crank and overdrive alternator pullies
Upper and lower poly motor mounts
and about 200+ lbs of weight reductions

what is my best bet for $500 to really increase power?

I would say so.

Nitrous.


most kits go for mid 400- mid 500 dollar range.

SunfireN2o wrote:Nitrous.


most kits go for mid 400- mid 500 dollar range.

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Yeah nitrous if you want to spend the money right now or you could save it and boost it.


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well not to put down you boosted guys or anything but why would I spend $2000+ on a turbo system when I could spend $500 on a nitrous kit and be just as fast

Brett, not to hi-jack your thread, but with your current bolt-ons and mods, what sort of power do you put down?

Brett both ways of making power have there pro's and con's. Its just a prefernce really.

Rob he can't be putting down more than 115hp.


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With nitrous, your only as fast for a few seconds...

With boost, the power is there at all times.

I disagree, Nitrous is there when you want/need it to be(as long as you have some in the bottle) Why do you never to be fast and powerful all the time? You just waste more gas. Also Nitrous always has been and always with be the cheapest way to make big horsepower.


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Ah I'm not sure what I put down never got her dynoed, I used to have a 94 trans am that I would dyno frequently and put down above 300 rwhp so now taking my car to the same shop to get it dynoed with a car that puts down low 100's is kinda rough for me to do

Brett Dixon wrote:well not to put down you boosted guys or anything but why would I spend $2000+ on a turbo system when I could spend $500 on a nitrous kit and be just as fast

Well that's very simple...cheap power doesn't mean durable power. Just because you can put a 50 shot and possibly gain "50 HP" doesn't mean anything. With nitrous it puts more wear because it has to be used under full throttle. I bet you there are turbo 2200 guys who can take your 50 shot with 75% throttle.

Also, you're very limited to power with nitrous. Unless you build your 2200, I doubt you can take barely a 75 shot. With turbo boost, there are people running 10 psi and 190-200+ WHP with no problems and reliable. Nitrous puts alot of wear on your pistons and has a greater chance of detonating.

Nitrous was one of those things that were used on drag cars for slight gains and help like to help people spool turbos off the line better...not as an ONLY source of power.

No matter how you look at it...even if you have 125 shot direct port, you'll still have a TEMPORARY fast car. I never understood the point of having a 16 second car that's a 14 second only for a matter of seconds...it's a major tease and dissapointing. You'll see fast that the guys who were big on nitrous are surely moving to boost.

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Pacesetter header 4-1
Highflow cat
2.5" catback
Injen cold air intake
Underdrive crank and overdrive alternator pullies
Upper and lower poly motor mounts
and about 200+ lbs of weight reductions

Honestly, I would spend part or all of that money on a new cat-back system & catalytic converter that is 2 1/4....2 1/2 is way too big N/A, especially on the OHV motors.



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NJHK (The JBO Negro) wrote:
No matter how you look at it...even if you have 125 shot direct port, you'll still have a TEMPORARY fast car. I never understood the point of having a 16 second car that's a 14 second only for a matter of seconds...it's a major tease and dissapointing. You'll see fast that the guys who were big on nitrous are surely moving to boost.

Nothing beats the feeling of being boosted. I loved my 84 celica that was turboed and I love my moms new Monte SS. The power is there all the time as N2O isn't. Dont get me wrong I have a 75 shot right now in my eco and I love it but I still long to be boosted. I'd say save it for boost.


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Q: where did you get your pullies

nitrous is more fun



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I got my pullies from jtuners.com best pullies you can get, good deal and a noticeable increase in power

its easy...rich people boost....poor people N20 haha...

Rich people buy v8 cars lol

jz wrote:its easy...rich people boost....poor people N20 haha...

Far from it...

People who can save their money and have an actual budget can afford whatever they want...it's the people who sudden have $500 who think that they will never see that amount of money again who buy nitrous (of course with the exception of few).



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but isnt there people who prefer nitrous over boost? I think your statement is a little ignorant in my opinion

Brett Dixon wrote:but isnt there people who prefer nitrous over boost? I think your statement is a little ignorant in my opinion

My statement is far from ignorant...

He was stating that the ONLY people who have boost are people who are Rich which is far from it. There are plenty of people who work basic jobs, live basic lives and have an average life who HAVE boost. It's not hard to have $3,000 at one time...you just have to use money management. I don't care if you make $6 an hour, if you have good money management skills, you can save $3,000.

There are plenty of people on here who want performance according to cheapness of the part. They buy an intake...a cat-back...motor mounts...why? cause it's inexpensive. Then they see that doesn't gain them much so they want more power...hmm...what's next on the list? Hey! Look! Nitrous! A 50 Shot can give me 50 HP! Believe it or not, that is the mantality of alot of people and yourself included. You wanted nitrous based on it's price NOT based on it's reliability, power gains vs anything else and power capabilities.

The fact is if you use your head and watch your pockets, you can do anything you want regardless of price amount. If you want something so bad, you do whatever to get it. Money should only an obsticle, not an deciding factor. Lots of people think like you do right now (even me at one point) BUT you will learn that even the average middle-class person can get boost by using something that comes naturally...their brain.



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I prefer nitrous over boost but that just me. Give me another year or so maybe, I put down some nice numbers and a nice 1/4 with nitrous.


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Fire Fighter wrote:I prefer nitrous over boost but that just me. Give me another year or so maybe, I put down some nice numbers and a nice 1/4 with nitrous.

Yeah true, everyone has their preferences, no doubt but it's when people choose something soley based on it's price is when it disturbs me a bit.



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Brett Dixon wrote:Rich people buy v8 cars lol

I wouldn't go there

for how much alot of people dump into thier 4 bangers you could buy a v8 car and walk away alot faster for alot cheaper. but thats neither here or there




well, as far as no2, you do get the best hp per dollar. you don't have to wait for a no2 kit to be spooled up. you can turn no2 on and off for when you don't need it. and there is no parasitic loss of the crank with no2. however remembe you are still dealing with very volitile substances and whenever you push a motor to produce 50-75-100hp over what the factory intended you have to be READY for something to go wrong.


and as far as being "cheap" keep in mind there are lots of people that base thier entire motor/trans/gearing off what will happen when the nitrous hits. and these setups are far from cheap

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Brett Dixon wrote:Rich people buy v8 cars lol

I wouldn't go there

for how much alot of people dump into thier 4 bangers you could buy a v8 car and walk away alot faster for alot cheaper. but thats neither here or there




well, as far as no2, you do get the best hp per dollar. you don't have to wait for a no2 kit to be spooled up. you can turn no2 on and off for when you don't need it. and there is no parasitic loss of the crank with no2. however remembe you are still dealing with very volitile substances and whenever you push a motor to produce 50-75-100hp over what the factory intended you have to be READY for something to go wrong.


and as far as being "cheap" keep in mind there are lots of people that base thier entire motor/trans/gearing off what will happen when the nitrous hits. and these setups are far from cheap

I will partly disagree with your "v8" statement...there are plenty of people out here who buy a used Honda Civic, build the motor up in their garage, get their parts super cheap, turbo it and run faster than a v8 car with less money spent on insurance, no car note and under $10,000 for everything done (including the price of the car) but that's a possibility of someone doing this. I will agree that it takes less work to make a V8 faster...example: A header upgrade on a V8 is going to give enormous amounts of power compared to say an I-4 motor.

but whatever...we could argue into the end of time with that one.

Now, as far as your statement...

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you don't have to wait for a no2 kit to be spooled up.

If you know what you're doing and turbo match correctly, spooling up isn't an issue (turbo lag is what I'm also refering to). If you match the turbos right, you'll spool at full boost just as fast as someone who floors it just to spray nitrous. Unless someone is trying to spray off the line or something, I really don't see the advantage. Also, there are all types of turbos...ball bearing turbos are pretty much instant full boost, would you want to compare spraying to them?

Other than that, I agree with everything else you said.



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