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secret cam
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:13 AM
has anyone tried to put a 97 2.2 cam into a 98 2.2? I read it on the ny library. but i just wanted to know if anyone has done it? and how hard was it did it fit right in? did you need any parts besides the cam? and how does it idle? what kind of gains? but i'm going to try it anyway. i just wanted to see if any of yall have tried it.

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Re: secret cam
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:30 AM
can anyone help me??????

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Re: secret cam
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:26 AM
any help please?
any help please?

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Re: secret cam
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:27 AM
My gut wants to say "No it won't work" but honestly, I'm not sure.

but my question is why you would want to do such a thing? I mean you're basically ripping apart your motor to put in a camshaft that is off another stock motor that is probably slightly different in duration and lift but nothing major.

It just seems not logical to me but maybe there is another reason why you are doing it...that's why I'm asking.



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Re: secret cam
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:32 AM
go to www.ny-jbodies.org and go to the library and look at the 98 cavalier secret cam.

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Re: secret cam
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:40 AM
fast cavalier ecotec wrote:go to www.ny-jbodies.org and go to the library and look at the 98 cavalier secret cam.


Ok I just read it. Still, not sure why you would still want to do it because:

1. Me and you don't really know no anyone with a 2.2 OHV that has done such a mod
2. The amount of time you are ripping open your motor to do such a modification, it won't be worth it.

Remember, your camshaft is located pretty much in the block, not on top like the DOHC motors. Also remember even if you did such a modification, you will still be bringing in the same amount of airflow through your 8 valve head, so power difference would be little untill you opened up your valves with a good port job and upgrade your head parts.



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Re: secret cam
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:58 AM
as soon as i get it in i will port and polish it do you know of any one on the org that might know?

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est hp=130
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Re: secret cam
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:00 PM
they also have it for the 2.4 motor. you just take a cam out of a 2.3 motor.

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Re: secret cam
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:02 PM
its only going to take me a day to pull out the motor. I guess i'll be the first to do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10.5 second 1/8mile
est hp=130
est tq=135
Re: secret cam
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:42 PM
some people said that it really doesn't fit. but it really wouldn't be worth it, the differences in the cam won't get you much more power. If your going to tear apart the motor you might as well save up and call Crane or comp cams and spend like $150-200 on a better cam made for you



Re: secret cam
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:45 PM
The 2.4 motor is different. The older engines made more power than the current 2.4 and have cams that would make more of a difference than a 2.2

you read what is said

"So in theory by doing the swap you will get a cam and rocker combination of .460 inch valve lift, instead of stock .420 lift."

Meaning that no one has tried. That does not mean it is going to work either until someone tries it we will not know if it will work.



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Re: secret cam
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:38 PM
fast cavalier ecotec wrote:as soon as i get it in i will port and polish it do you know of any one on the org that might know?


Only suggestion I can give is find a machine shop near you because you want to have a head that is ported professionally and that is Flow Bench tested. While it's off, buy the proper parts for the head. You can purchase them at www.jbodyperformance.com.



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Re: secret cam
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 5:13 AM
like i said i will try it and i will let yall know. every one else thinks that it will really help out. any way im getting the cam fo $30 bucks and i'm going to school to be a mechanic and i can pull my motor out in class. so i guess i'll let yall know.

10.5 second 1/8mile
est hp=130
est tq=135
Re: secret cam
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 5:22 AM
Ask Event about the cam.

It's not suppose to work since the timming notch are not the same.



Gilles
2.3 Ho

Re: secret cam
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 5:23 AM
fast cavalier ecotec wrote:like i said i will try it and i will let yall know. every one else thinks that it will really help out. any way im getting the cam fo $30 bucks and i'm going to school to be a mechanic and i can pull my motor out in class. so i guess i'll let yall know.


Alright...good luck...



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Re: secret cam
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 5:36 AM
who is event?


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Re: secret cam
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 3:49 PM
What exactly are the secret cams and where can I get them,?
Re: secret cam
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 3:56 PM
Event. AKA dirty Muffins AKA muffins AKA everything.

Event is the guy to talk to about timing issues and such. you should search his name,


and Penster.

Be careful here. these cams are not easy to find. I lucked out, do your research


and SEARCH

I typed something up a while ago

Secret Cam Compilation

look it up.



Re: secret cam
Thursday, November 03, 2005 5:13 AM
what motor do you have the 2.2 or the2.4?

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est hp=130
est tq=135
Re: secret cam
Thursday, November 03, 2005 8:02 AM
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