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changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:36 PM
hey i put in my new JBP lifters and s/c grind cams and i still hear a tapping noise while cruising and when the engine is rev'd up. Like ill put it in park, rev it up and it will go rrrrmmmm ti ti ti ti ti like a marble or something and when im going down the road with my foot off the gas i can hear it tapping or ti ti ti ti. I dont think its a bent valve or rod btw cause my mechanic said it didnt sound loud enough or sound like any of them. help guys.





Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:13 PM
you can get the valves for $100 from Karo. You might as well do that. But since you replaced all that @!#$, you need to adjust them too.




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Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:40 AM
Adjust your valve lash. Your rockers have probably worked themselves loose.
Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 8:23 AM
so what is it you guys think? order new car customs stock sized valves or what? i really need to get this fixed because to me the car doesnt have as much power as i thought it would with the s/c cams in it and plus i was running off like 5 tenths at the track when i noticed the problem a while ago.




Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 8:28 AM
Hey J, where are you located?
May have some free time to stop by and check out your ride/listen for the problem.

You have the set up I want to eventually get to o Id like to learn/help as best I can.
Hit me up 410-807-6116

-Mastin


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Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 8:31 AM
cecil county maryland is where im at. where you at in maryland?




Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 11:23 AM
I'm in Towson.
But driving to wherever is no big deal for me.
Basically my job description anyway.

LMK,
-M


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Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 11:50 AM
sounds like an odd problem, to me........... Mastin, go take a listen.....




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Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 3:02 PM
well before i get anyone else to check the problem out someone suggested to check the oil preasure and see if its pumping enough oil to the lifters cause when the engine is cold (thick oil) theres no tapping and when it warms up (oil gets thinner) there is tapping. so i guess ill go from there if thats not the problem.




Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 3:03 PM
btw the compression in all the cylinders is 200 the meter read so it cant be a rod, piston or valve i dont think.




Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 3:24 PM
welcome to the wonderful world of having a bad wrist pin.. been there.. done that. its blows.. good luck man



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Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 4:39 PM
how do i fix it and how much will it run me for the part? ive neve rheard of anyones wrist pin going out of a 2.4




Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 4:50 PM
ason beat me to it, it could possibley be a wrist pin starting to go.....


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Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 4:51 PM
i never heard of it either until my motor with only 49XXX miles started tickign bad... after replacing all lifters i gave up and had someone more skilled have a stab at it. turned out to be a bad wristpin... no clue why. normal wear and tear they say. damn i wish i had the extended warranty at the time....



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Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:07 PM
if its a bad wrist pin why would i only hear the tapping on the exhaust side of the valve cover?




Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:22 PM
if it was valve lash it would do it while it was cold, so it's not that. Piston slap maybe?



Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:33 PM
Maybe the spark plugs arent tight, it caused a tick in my motor, kinda made me upset, cause i ended up changing the oil again before finding that out.


Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 6:22 PM
odball, but could be your timing chain/tensioner

Jon
Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 6:43 PM
yeah but the sounds coming from the exhaust side of the engine....like exactly over it, not the middle not the intake side, the exhaust side only this is so hard to figure out




Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Thursday, October 13, 2005 4:41 AM
jsunfireGT2000 wrote:yeah but the sounds coming from the exhaust side of the engine....like exactly over it, not the middle not the intake side, the exhaust side only this is so hard to figure out


That is how Jason's car sounded too.....


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Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:08 PM
How's the cam timing? Your exhaust cam could be off a little and your valves and pistons are getting to know each other...

Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:30 PM
Mr Clean wrote:How's the cam timing? Your exhaust cam could be off a little and your valves and pistons are getting to know each other...


could be. but it does sound like a wrist pin to me. check your timing and adjust valve lash




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Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:16 PM
your crank pulley tight?






Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:31 PM
as much as i hate to tell u im almost positive u have a bad wrist pin, i was in denial for like a month before i came to realize i needed an engine rebuild...

3 mechanics located my tick to my exhaust cam housing.... engine noises and ticks are nearly impossible to locate unless its a common problem with the type of engine.



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Re: changed lifters, cams....still tapping noise!
Friday, October 14, 2005 8:49 AM
does it tic while idle? Cause in jasons, as soon as he hit like what 2500 RPMS you could hear the tic, then when he went a little higher it would go away.

Dam that sucks, are you two the only people that it has happened to so far?


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