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Nology HotWires Ignition Wire Sets? Safe to use?
Friday, July 08, 2005 3:43 AM

Nology HotWires Ignition Wire Sets

Would it be safe to use these on my 03 Sunfire 2.2 ECOTEC? I', looking to upgrade my spark plugs as well. What would be a good choice?

Re: Nology HotWires Ignition Wire Sets? Safe to us
Friday, July 08, 2005 5:30 AM
LOL!! you have no spark plug wires.
and just stick with your stock plugs



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Re: Nology HotWires Ignition Wire Sets? Safe to us
Friday, July 08, 2005 5:49 AM
do an msd system



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Re: Nology HotWires Ignition Wire Sets? Safe to us
Friday, July 08, 2005 9:03 AM
99redz24 is correct, you have an ignition system on your car that doesn't use wires. The coil packs make direct contact with the plugs.

Rodimus Prime is also correct, you can get MSD upgrades for your motor which involve external ignition amplifiers (DIS-2) and coil packs. Then you'd need wires to go from the coil packs to the spark plugs.

If you do that, I'd STRONGLY recommend against Nology wires, for a couple reasons. I'll quote myself from an old post:
I wrote:I have two very big problems with Nology Hotwires that I've posted in the forums before, and maybe it's time I did again:

1. They advertise that they have a "capacitor" in the wires that makes the spark hotter. What they actually have is a wire braid that is wrapped around the wire itself, creating a capacitive effect. The problem is that by doing it that way, they are using the insulation of the wire as a capacitive dielectric which, at those voltage levels, will degrade the insulation. Internally, they are nothing but standard resistor core ignition wires that offer nothing to increase voltage delivered to the plugs.

2. They alter ignition timing. It's a simple fact that wires do not create sparks. Wires are simply the means of delivery for the voltage that is produced by the coils. A normal ignition system on a J, depending on engine RPM, will produce a spark that has a duration of 15-30 degrees of crankshaft rotation. That is a consistent, even spark that starts at the point the computer determines it needs to and fires as long as the coil's saturation level allows. That is through conventional wires (or contacts, in the case of IDI-style ignitions). Nology wires use their primitive little capacitive effect to store the voltage once it starts coming down the wire...charging the "capacitor" until the voltage stops coming...then releases it. Neat idea, except that the spark is now hitting the plug and your combustion chamber 15-30 degrees later than it was intended to. I guess a built in timing retard like that would be good for you boost and nitrous guys, but what about the NA crowd?

SO their advertising is 100% true...their wires deliver a hotter spark. What they fail to tell you is that the hotter spark is much shorter duration and is grossly mistimed.

So, the way I see it you have a wire that, by design, will slowly destroy itself. As an added bonus, you have a theory of operation that is potentially damaging to your motor and definitely isn't good for power production or fuel consumption.
That is as true today as it was then. MSD makes universal Superconductor wire sets that are about the best option you'll find. They are the lowest resistance wires (50 ohms per foot) on the market and MSD quality is outstanding.







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Re: Nology HotWires Ignition Wire Sets? Safe to us
Friday, July 08, 2005 5:34 PM
Would it be worth getting an msd system or should I just stay with the stock set up?
Re: Nology HotWires Ignition Wire Sets? Safe to us
Friday, July 08, 2005 6:28 PM
nology makes a kit specifically for the ecotec but if ur doing the conversion i would use the msd components as stated above.
Re: Nology HotWires Ignition Wire Sets? Safe to us
Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:19 AM
My hotwires broke down. Specifically, the insullation between the capacitor and the ground deteriorated and it started arching causing the engine to mis horribly.





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Re: Nology HotWires Ignition Wire Sets? Safe to us
Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:27 PM
oldskool wrote:My hotwires broke down. Specifically, the insullation between the capacitor and the ground deteriorated and it started arching causing the engine to mis horribly.
That's exactly what I was referring to. By putting the braid around the wire, they are using the silicone insulation of the wire as a capacitive dielectric. High voltage capacitors put alot of stress on their dielectric materials, and silicone just isn't made to do that job. Your experience is the end result of that. It's a poor design, it's a gimmick, it's a waste of money and in the end you're lucky it sisn't do more damage to your motor.






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