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Planning a build
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:03 AM
Ok heres the quick story:
My wife left me for another man, i'm filing bankrupsy due to all her credit cards, I traded a truck for an '89 Cavalier RS with the 2.2 because i have to drive 55 miles "one way" to pick up my kids every weekend (that's 220 miles a weekend). Anyway my to-be ex wife said her man saw me pick them up in the new car and asked her "is that his girlfriends car". He just bought her a new 2005 Grand Prix, this may be childish but could my car be modded to eat up the Grand Prix? I won't do anything that will kill my gas mileage. I told my wife i was gonna smoke her new car and she said "in that?"
You know what's good about this story, for the first time since i've been married I now have the money to actually work on a vehicle! I don't know the life of these engines but it has 109,000 miles and runs great. I just want to start planning a buildup of this car!
Thanks,

Re: Planning a build
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:25 AM
Your a complete moron. Why would you want to dump all that money into a car that is worth 100 bux. Who cares if your car can beat a grand prix, that sounds just plain stupid to me. Save your money and finance a new car and get somthign other than an 89 cavalier. If you have kids and are driving all that way every weekend, wouldn't you want to get somthing realible that is going to be safe and not leave you stranded anywhere. I'm sure that it can be done, and that if you really wanted to do it, than anything is possible, but IMO it is just a waste of time. I would be more worried about how to re-organize my life, than to want to be messin around with my ex-wife. Even if the car is faster, in the end what will that accomplish?






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Re: Planning a build
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:57 AM
Moron? Thanks alot dirt bag, I was planning on fixing it up over a period of time. If i had the money to buy a new ride I would. I traded an '84 chevy truck with a smoking 305 for this car, it is dependable compared to what I had. I'm working on re-organizing my life, i've lost my home that I had prior to the marriage because of the divorse, I've been driving them around in my grandmother's freakin '84 buick. I thought i had stepped up a little, I'm currently living in my sister's trailor but I'm moving to a house that i'm going to be renting, amoung all that I'm still paying lawyers. After giving her 600.00 a month I can't afford a new ride. I would like to fix up the car a little for my personal pride, not cause i want to mess with my ex-wife.
I don't mind advice but calling me a moron in the process, geez forget i asked! We seperated in August and I've lost alot of pride, I'm not proud of the car but it's better than an '84 chevy truck's gas mileage and dependability , and looks better than my grandmother's buick. I felt improving the looks and performance a little surely would'nt cost anywhere what a new car would!
Re: Planning a build
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:01 AM
Bro, let me put it this way.

The only way you'll be able to beat a BRAND NEW Grand Prix is if you do something major to your car...Motor Swap, Motor Rebuild getting ready for boost.

Honestly, if you're not financially stable, you shouldn't be trying to modify your car, especially if you drive an 89 Cavalier and you can atleast afford an 3rd gen.

My suggestion is just plainly, grow up. Even if you could beat her car, what does it prove? Nothing. Only thing it'll show is that you spent thousands on top of thousands of dollars on a car that's worth dirt and you'll be broke from doing so.

Take it from a father. If you don't have the money to take care of your kids first, don't spend money on your car.



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Re: Planning a build
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:06 AM
Sean Lea wrote:If i had the money to buy a new ride I would.


Evidentally if you don't have the money to afford to maintain a car newer than an 89, than you shouldn't be modifying. Take it from someone who used to own a 90 Cavalier 2.2, you'll be spending money on a modification then something goes wrong and you're spending money on maintenance and usually the maintenance is more expensive than the performance modification.

I mean seriously, you could get a 3rd gen Cavalier, even a Z24, for dirt cheap...you could probably get a 98 or 99 for $4,000 or less. Trust me, you'll be spending way more than that to get the "power" you want.



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Re: Planning a build
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:19 AM
OK enough said, my kids have always come first and they always will! Don't assume I'd take from them to build a car, I choose to get them every weekend while my ex parties her life away, I do take care of my kids! I don't wish it on anyone but let me see you loose everything because of a spouse and end up with no possesions to show for 30 years of life. I am starting over from the bottom, I don't see where i'm immature cause i wanted to make a ride a little more asthetic and add some performance. I swear i said plan and over a period of time, i'm filing bankrupsy, i'm screwed for 7 years. I don't have the credit to borrow a dollar. I make decent money but a series of unfortunate events has dropped me to the bottom, It was a simple question. Take 600.00 a month out of your income and see how it effects you and maybe even what you drive. I didn't realize this was such a outrageous or expensive task. I just got this car and know nothing about it, ok so it may be a hooptie but I thought giving up my '84 for a 30mpg car was a smart choice, it sure as hell wasn't for looks! But now I'm a "moron who's immature and can't take care of my kids" just because i asked what it would take. I guess when it come's down to it anybody who hop's up a car or puts exterior assessories on a car is immature, I just thought it was a natural desire for a man to want to improve whatever the hell he's driving whether it be my 100.00 ride as you say or a freakin Vette!
Enough on dissing me, I assure you i won't ask anything else!
Re: Planning a build
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:21 AM
It's not worth your money. No matter what you put into it, it will not be worth anything later on. And you'd pretty much have to replace every part on the car anyway in order to have a car that still isn't worth what it was brand new.




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Re: Planning a build
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:30 AM
Not that i'm even concerned about the issue anymore but it's a '98 i goofed when i said '89. Like i said before just forget it!
Re: Planning a build
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 12:52 PM
Sean Lea wrote:Not that i'm even concerned about the issue anymore but it's a '98 i goofed when i said '89. Like i said before just forget it!


Sorry bro but switching up the two numbers makes a HUGE difference.

A turbo should suit you well with the 2200 and you should be able to take the Grand Prix.

My only issue was that you wanted to build the car SPECIFICALLY to beat her car, which sounds childish. You should build a car because you like building cars and you're doing it for yourself, not to prove someone wrong.

I wasn't saying that you don't already put your kids first but when I thought you had an 89 cav and you wanted to hook it up, I was meaning more like instead of using your money for your car put it torwards your kids. I know nothing about you so I wouldn't assume that about you. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

If you are looking to know more about your car, just ask. Like I said before, sorry for telling you the wrong information but you had given us the wrong information...we all thought you had a 89 2.2 OHV which is like the slowest dirt motor ever LOL.

Good luck bro and good luck with your situation.



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Re: Planning a build
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:28 PM
Thanks,
Yea I worded my post wrong, not just the year model but this mornin when she told me the dude asked "is that his girlfriends car" it just pissed me off. I'd already been looking at body kits since i was offered the trade and i have no knowledge of this engine or what can be easily done!
Sorry for the mixup!
Re: Planning a build
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 3:08 PM
Sean Lea wrote:Thanks,
Yea I worded my post wrong, not just the year model but this mornin when she told me the dude asked "is that his girlfriends car" it just pissed me off. I'd already been looking at body kits since i was offered the trade and i have no knowledge of this engine or what can be easily done!
Sorry for the mixup!


Well since you are techinically a Newbie, you should check this thread out I made for the Newbies...this should help you out with some questions you might have.

The Ultimate Newbies FAQ



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Re: Planning a build
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 3:15 PM
I can help you out. I have a 2200 turbo kit for sale.


275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!

Re: Planning a build
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:25 PM
Sorry for goin off on ya bro. Those two numbers DEFINITELY make a big difference. Boost is definitely your friend.




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Re: Planning a build
Thursday, November 03, 2005 8:15 AM
All i can do is laugh about it now, it's amazing the attitude difference between the two inversed numbers! Adler so what's the story on your kit, what kind is is, how many miles are on the turbo, why did you pull it, and how much are you asking?
Re: Planning a build
Thursday, November 03, 2005 8:42 AM
first i say tell her to go awya. and dont be all mean about it to her. if ur mean then she'll never be sorry about what she did to u..if ur mean as @!#$ to her its just easier for her to be like ok i'm happy for what id did. i'm struggling to pick everything up after a very long long term relationship. i dont have ot file bankruptcy or anytihng but the love part is similiar. just letitng her go is the first part. dont worry about beating her grandprix. just save money and pick up an old F-body some that is definitely worth building up. and work from there. good luck with ur situation.



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Re: Planning a build
Thursday, November 03, 2005 9:19 AM
Turbo that puppy. I'd leave it stock looking outside, then blow her doors off in a race.


Re: Planning a build
Thursday, November 03, 2005 10:03 AM
Oh i'm definately not mean to her, i'm getting off the subject but we get along fine. What's done is done, i do what's best for my boys which is to get along with her. Anyway their would likely never be a race it's just I'd like knowing I could, you know kinda personal satisfaction. And it's more than that, I'm not overly exited about the stock look of this car or the performance but I'm loving the gas mileage. So if I could improve those two a little I may would love this car.
Talking about and F-body my vehicles that i had prior to my marriage are truly the only possessions i hav'nt lost and she tried her darndest to make me sell them the whole time, I have a '90 IROC-Z with a TPI 305, also I have a '78 Chevy 4x4 Blazer with a 454 and 3/4 ton axles and 40" tires, and a '79 Chevy 4x4 stepside with a 350 and 38" swampers, a '70 Nova SS hull, and a '71 firebird rollin chassy. Today I am trading a lawnmower for a '67 Cougar- yea i know i'm mixing up the breeds but it's a good looking body style and it can always get a chevy engine later... By the way the IROC and the stepside have mechanical problems so it's not like all these are drivable right now! So I'm a vehicle nut, when my boys aren't with me during the week i have plenty things to occupy my time.
I'm glad to be a part of this forum now, i almost wasn't cause of a typo yesterday but it's all good now! You can imagine when i read the first few posts i was like DA#N what the heck did I do to deserve that! lol
Re: Planning a build
Thursday, November 03, 2005 12:28 PM
Here are a few pics of the kit when I first put it on the car. I will PM you with the rest of the info.









275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!

Re: Planning a build
Thursday, November 03, 2005 12:44 PM
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