Ok, hi guys. I have a cosmo intake for a 97 2.2L Motor. What i did was instead of drilling a hole for the sensor i used some cooling system rubber toubing and used the hose from the intake to hold the sensor, the car runs fine and i have no check engine light, but is there ne increase in the effectivness of the intake if i move the sensor into the tube? Also, sometimes when the rpms are a little low andi taker off slow there is this like popping noise from the engine bay area, this only happened after i put on my intake. Please dicuss and i apologize for any of you that dont like spelling and grammar problems. and b4 someone says it , yes i have smoke myself retarded. ( if it make you feel better, ill save you the typing) =/
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hey, at least you put the sensor near the intake. your best bet would be to have it in the intake. this way it gets a direct reading of the air coming in to your engine.
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always put it IN the intake tube.... always....
else how else will it read what the air is? guessing?
having the sensor in a tube is pointless....
the air flow is to go through the cage thats around the sensor... the only way this will occur is if its IN the pipe....
read the bottom of page 2 in the FAQ at the top of the forum on how to do it.
if air isnt flowing through the cage that surrounds it, its not reading what it should. thats like putting a thermometer in your front jean pocket and thinking its getting an accurate reading of your body temp of how it would be in your mouth.....or for some, their rear.
damn wtf when i put my intake on i put the sensor in a tube that is conected to this little metal tube on the intake, thats probly why its running rich (yes, no)?
Possibly. In the tube is best. If not, extend the wires and put it very near your filter.
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neoSandstorm (The Sandy One) wrote:Possibly. In the tube is best. If not, extend the wires and put it very near your filter.
actually you wanna keep it close to the TB as you can as this is gonna be the most accurate reading of whats going inside the engine.
Dam-it Muffins (Event) wrote:neoSandstorm (The Sandy One) wrote:Possibly. In the tube is best. If not, extend the wires and put it very near your filter.
actually you wanna keep it close to the TB as you can as this is gonna be the most accurate reading of whats going inside the engine.
I'm probably going to reposition mine. With my cold air setup right now, it sits right before the 2nd bend. I just don't want to have to extend it because I hate the look of extra wiring all over an engine bay.
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to minimize the extra wiring, if you do decide to extend.... wrap the entire wires length in electrical tape. kinda takes away from the "2 wires" look. and for most it can be hidden that way as well depending on tape color
Dam-it Muffins (Event) wrote:to minimize the extra wiring, if you do decide to extend.... wrap the entire wires length in electrical tape. kinda takes away from the "2 wires" look. and for most it can be hidden that way as well depending on tape color
I'm sure I'll figure something out some day when I feel like jacking with it.
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Wal-mart has wire loom for really cheap, just go to the automitive area.
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I just located mine inside the hood vents near the windshield, there's lots of airflow through there when your moving (turn the fan off and I still have air comming out the vents). The idea is that the air is colder there so the car car thinks it's getting colder air and the computer pumps more fuel into the engine which equals more power.................al least thats the idea, I don't know if it really does anything though (probably doesn't)...........but I don't have any problems and the car runs great.
But I've got a completely different car, it probably respnds differen.........just an idea.
Weebel wrote:I just located mine inside the hood vents near the windshield, there's lots of airflow through there when your moving (turn the fan off and I still have air comming out the vents). The idea is that the air is colder there so the car car thinks it's getting colder air and the computer pumps more fuel into the engine which equals more power.................al least thats the idea, I don't know if it really does anything though (probably doesn't)...........but I don't have any problems and the car runs great.
But I've got a completely different car, it probably respnds differen.........just an idea.
pointless....
its not about getting "cold" air.... for starters it hot in summer time...
the point of the IAT is to meausre the air going into the engine. which most people miss that point.
so basically you left your iat sensor out in the open, where it becomes dirty, slows down the readings, and lets say it is a bit lower in temp...
the iat will read the air is cooler, throw in more gas, even if your intake is taking in air hot as a hair dryer, which means you are wasting gas.... throwing in gas you cant even use.
so you throw in more gas with air thats not dense enough to support it, and you get carbon buildup among other things.......
al IAT sensors pretty much work the same way. basically you could have by passed what you did and added one of those BS ebay chips and got the same effect.
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but it seems that all these so called cold air intakes only allow more air which makes it run lean. my car bogs and run poorly in the heat so maybe stock intake is better for low end power?
they allow more air, and if your IAT sensor is installed right, it will see the incoming air and adjust air to fuel ratios accordingly and you will not run lean
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nick renaud wrote:but it seems that all these so called cold air intakes only allow more air which makes it run lean. my car bogs and run poorly in the heat so maybe stock intake is better for low end power?
The computer "learns" with time that it is getting more/less air easier/harder. You wont run lean after about 100 miles because the computer will relize it is getting air easier and put in a bit more gas.
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On a 04 eco the IAT IS NOT USED TO SEE HOW MUCH AIR IS COMING IN.There is a IAT and a Air flow meter sensor I dont KNOW about a 2.4 I will make a thread about it
no need to
the IAT does one thing.....
measures INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE.....
2,4 and 2200 have map sensors MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE sensors. the ecotec has the same as well.
also i believe they are all the same part number
Description: MAP SENSOR
Part #: 16212460
the manifold absolute pressure sensor determines when the pressure changes from vaccum (open tb vs closed where the IAC vavle allows air to pass.
IAT measures air temp and adds or decreases gas thrown in, in a nutshell.
