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Cooling Mist Injector Install (possibility that I am just an idiot...)
Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:34 PM
Alright, so I just got my Cooling Mist setup from Lenko, and I was as all excited as a fat kid at an all you can eat buffet to bust into the installation, but then I noticed something.

Unless I'm interpreting something completely wrong:
-A hole needs to be drilled into the intake
-The hole then needs to be tapped accordingly (to match the thread of the injector)
-The injector is then threaded through from inside of the pipe to the outside (obviously with the nozzle-end inside of the intake)
-The injector "holder" is then to be screwed onto the threads of the injector on the outside of the pipe (in essence, "clamping" it into place)

The problems I see with this are:
-Your placement options are limited. Unless you're skinny enough to crawl into the intake, you can only install the injector on the very edge of the intake, with a maximum distance inwards of as far as your hand can reach (in order to still be able to thread the injector up and through the intake)
-A "non-contact" spot will be created between the flat head of the injector and the curve of the pipe (see attached diagram). I was thinking possibly JB Weld to bridge the gap or possibly a fat rubber washer.

If I'm way out to lunch on this one, please let me know. I need to get this damn thing installed by tomorrow, and at this rate, it's not happening.

Thanks to all.





DIAGRAM
Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:37 PM
Here's the diagram:






Re: DIAGRAM
Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:42 PM
Doh, sorry dude... never installed it so I didn't realize that was going to be an issue.

I'd pound a small part of the tube flat. That's the "Lazy Lenko" way



Re: DIAGRAM
Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:53 PM
John Lenko wrote:Doh, sorry dude... never installed it so I didn't realize that was going to be an issue.

I'd pound a small part of the tube flat. That's the "Lazy Lenko" way

Not your problem man, you never made the kit, so no apologies necessary. I just want to make sure I'm reading all of this correctly.

If that is the way it's supposed to go, I already went a bought some fat rubber washers tonight, so I think I'll just throw one of those on both the inside and outside where it contacts the pipe. That should seal any gaps, and if not, I'll throw some JB Weld on there and that will for sure seal it all up. Who knows though, I'll probably just end up getting pissed off like I always do, and then smashing a section of the intake flat will just become the natural outcome... lol.





Re: DIAGRAM
Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:57 PM
you could use a wrench to hold the injector in.


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Re: DIAGRAM
Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:48 PM
Josh Csepegi (CUYOTE) wrote:you could use a wrench to hold the injector in.

Yeah, that would somewhat solve problem 1, though that is the lesser of the two evils. It's that gap that I'm not the world's biggest fan of.





Re: DIAGRAM
Friday, September 07, 2007 5:30 AM
couldnt you make a small gasket between injector and intake to fill the gap just my 2 cents
Re: DIAGRAM
Friday, September 07, 2007 5:47 AM
thick rubber washers, you could probably find them at Lowes. I would also say some teflon tape would be a good sealant here also. ( also found at Lowes, plumbing dept.) that would probably be easier to work with.



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Re: DIAGRAM
Friday, September 07, 2007 6:26 AM
no need to stress this issue man, just flaten the pipe a bit. thats what id do. just do it on the bottom of the pipe so u dont see it.

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Re: DIAGRAM
Friday, September 07, 2007 8:11 AM
Thanks guys.

Yeah, I discussed those options with Lenko last night: "I already went and bought some fat rubber washers tonight, so I think I'll just throw one of those on both the inside and outside where it contacts the pipe. That should seal any gaps, and if not, I'll throw some JB Weld on there and that will for sure seal it all up. Who knows though, I'll probably just end up getting pissed off like I always do, and then smashing a section of the intake flat will just become the natural outcome... "

I also bought some:

-JB Weld
-o-rings
-teflon tape
-25 additional feet of hose (the hose that came with it was just shy of the length I needed)
-metal straps (to fabricate a bracket for the pump and tank)
-aluminum flashing (to "dress up" the bracket)

I also went to the local pick-a-part and pulled a washer tank off a wreck, as well as a bob-style level sensor. The tank that came with the kit was fine and all, but the sensor that I jacked sat higher than the tank, so I found another one that's pretty much the perfect height for it. Those two parts only cost me 10 bucks, whereas Cooling Mist wants $20 for the sensor, and I don't even know how much for a similar tank.

I'm going to go start throwing it all together in about half an hour, and I think I'll take pics of the install. I'm not going to worry too much about the aesthetic of it all right now, as during winter most of the car is getting torn apart and sexified, lol.

Thanks again.





Re: DIAGRAM
Friday, September 07, 2007 8:53 AM
I have the same kit... but never gave the "gap" issue a thought. It doesn't really have any effect on my setup because I screwed it into a 90 degree rubber elbow right off of the throttle body because my short ram drops straight down off of my H.O. mani. You'll think of something I would def. try the rubber washers before flattening a spot on the tube. You'll be happier with it. Good Luck.

Re: DIAGRAM
Friday, September 07, 2007 11:33 PM
jack030 wrote:I have the same kit... but never gave the "gap" issue a thought. It doesn't really have any effect on my setup because I screwed it into a 90 degree rubber elbow right off of the throttle body because my short ram drops straight down off of my H.O. mani.
That's kind of funny because I ended up doing the same thing this morning (see attached pic). I couldn't install the injector on the edge of the intake pipe (just before it connects into the elbow) as I have a port opening right there, and I didn't want to chance some freak thing where the line started taking in moisture (with the injector here as well, any unburned fluid will pool down and toward the intake pipe in the elbow, and not on top of the throttle plate). Any further down the intake pipe would have been impossible for me to thread the injector from the inside. I actually still tried putting a rubber washer on even with this install (basically did it because I had already drilled out and tapped the stupid washer), but with it on it wouldn't allow enough threads to come through for the holder to grasp on to. But, once it was in there I cranked the crap out of it and there is absolutely no "non-contact" point now. I even threaded the elbow by drilling out the hole, filling the edges, then taking a lighter to the hole. Once it burned the edges they became hardened and I was able the thread the tap through (I vacuumed out the elbow after and cleaned it with some intake cleaner and a rag to get rid of the debris).

I didn't get much done today because it started to rain (and my garage has way too much crap in it right now to park inside). I assembled the injector, pump fittings and check valve, then installed the level sensor into the tank (see attached pic) and tapped the tank for the line fitting, as well as sanded down the tank to prep it for paint. Looks like I'm going to end up putting the pump in the spare tire well so it's unseen, and then I'm going to mount the tank against the back of the trunk and into the plastic molding that goes over the trunk latch. Hopefully I'll have pics of everything installed on Sunday.

INSTALLED INJECTOR


FLUID LEVEL SENSOR INSTALLED (taken from car at junkyard)





Re: DIAGRAM
Saturday, September 08, 2007 8:50 AM
Teflon tape.



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Re: DIAGRAM
Monday, September 10, 2007 11:29 AM
GO TO NAPPA SPEND 5 CENTS AND GET A RUBBER O-RING TO FITH TE INJECTOR
bring your injector to match the 0-ring size


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Re: DIAGRAM
Monday, September 10, 2007 8:50 PM
do people not read previous posts? ^^^
(and that's NAPA)



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Re: DIAGRAM
Monday, September 10, 2007 10:00 PM
toyotaz87 wrote:do people not read previous posts? ^^^)

LOL. Yeah man, definitely glad I'm not the only one who seemed to notice this. There have since been images posted of the injector already installed, in addition to a write up about it, but the hints keep rollin' in. I'm almost willing to bet that when I post images of the entire setup installed and operating that people will still be offering me advice on the injector install.

Anyhow, it's almost done. I had limited time tonight, and yesterday was dedicated to nursing my hella-painful migraine. Tomorrow I need to bolt the tank in, route the fluid line up through the engine bay to the injector, and run the two long-ass wires to my trunk (1 for pump power, 1 for the level sensor power). I'll post pics (maybe in a new thread) when it's done.




Re: DIAGRAM
Tuesday, September 11, 2007 2:45 PM
I hit the reply button to your post the instant I finished reading it because it was a pretty easy answer



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Re: DIAGRAM
Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:09 PM
Dave Dunsmoor wrote:I hit the reply button to your post the instant I finished reading it because it was a pretty easy answer

That actually wasn't the cure man. I was attempting to fill in the gap between the flat head of the injector and the curved diameter of the pipe. When they come together, there is a "non-contact" space created (see diagram in the original post).

As for teflon tape, the entire install was done utilizng this, including the input line, output line, check valve in and out, tank feed line and injector. There isn't a single threaded connection that is not taped.




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