alright guys i just bought a new ported head I have a 96-99 block.
The head i bought is a brand new 00-02 ported head i was just comparing.
I knew there where a few differences when i bought it so.
Here are a few pics of the differences as far as i can tell its just water.
Do i just use a 00-02 head gasket or a 96-99 head gasket anything else i need to do to swap them over.
I also threw up some pics of the ports.
there are lil circles around the jackets on the new head that are differant.
Thanks,
Paul
i remember seeing something about that , was it in that article about the quad differences , starting with the 2.3
when i bought that head it was listed 96-98 from what i remember , lol i only had my 97 at that time i got the head
Well i know the two are swappable so i just basically need to know what gasket to run. Thanks again for the great sale 97cavie24ls(tm)
I would use the 96-98 gasket and match the middle water jacket above cylinders 2, 3, and 4 to it. I highly doubt your block has provisions for the different shaped passages of the 99-02. You might even be able to get away with just using the 96-98 head gasket and not bothering with making the three new passages at all.
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"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
i know there is something out there that said which way to go
for the life of me i cant remember where it was
best i can say is get both head gaskets and do a comparison
you are welcome
From what I remember you can use a 00+ head on a pre 00 car, but can't use a pre 00 head on a 00+ block (without port matching). As for which head gasket I would say stiock with the one for the block you are using, but I could be wrong.
FU Tuning
John is correct
Blew it up, build numbers coming soon
i think john is wrong, i have a 96 head on a 2k block and i didnt even think about all this craziness. i took the 2k head off with plans of p&ping it and shoved on my old head off the old motor of mine. its been on since summer and had 3 trips from IL to MN and back, plus all my track runs all revving to 7k. idk what the prob is? what is supposed to be the issue?
gmanz24 wrote:i think john is wrong, i have a 96 head on a 2k block and i didnt even think about all this craziness. i took the 2k head off with plans of p&ping it and shoved on my old head off the old motor of mine. its been on since summer and had 3 trips from IL to MN and back, plus all my track runs all revving to 7k. idk what the prob is? what is supposed to be the issue?
wow thats good news, i was reading through this and saying NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO to myself cuz i had my 96-98 head ported and its going on a 2000 block.
gmanz24 wrote:i think john is wrong, i have a 96 head on a 2k block and i didnt even think about all this craziness. i took the 2k head off with plans of p&ping it and shoved on my old head off the old motor of mine. its been on since summer and had 3 trips from IL to MN and back, plus all my track runs all revving to 7k. idk what the prob is? what is supposed to be the issue?
This would be good news. Again I'm going off memory. Also this was soo long ago it might have been one of those things that people thought, but no one actually knew. I can say I do not know for sure because I have never tried it. Since you have which head gasket are you running?
FU Tuning
i think it was 1 way you didnt need to do anything , and the other way you did
So run a 00+ gasket or a 96-99 gasket?
I would think go with a 00+ just because the new passages that are on the 00 head would have gasket underneath them if you ran a pre 00.
Does anyone know 100% ?
I'd say use your 96-99 gasket.
SInce that gasket will line up with the provisions on the block.
So you figure, whatever goes on top of that, will work itself out.
Where as, if you ise the 00+ gasket.
Yes it will match the head,
But its the block ports that are looking for the hole alignments.
So if stuff gets blocked off on the block, it could be an issue.
That's my thinking on it.
Or just sell me the head sine mine is 99-02
-M
Remember....syringes go in the RED waste basket.
Paul Tjepkes (N/A MADNESS) wrote:So run a 00+ gasket or a 96-99 gasket?
I would think go with a 00+ just because the new passages that are on the 00 head would have gasket underneath them if you ran a pre 00.
Does anyone know 100% ?
My 086 allows far more water to meet the gasket than the 00+ LD9 head will. It's been a year and still running strong.
The only issue with this is even cooling, which I really don't think will be that big of a deal anyways. I would just use the 96-98 HG. If you don't bother with modifying the head, then either gasket will end up doing the exact same thing. Using the 96-98, you have the correct holes to line up with your block and with the 99-02 you have the correct holes to line up with the head. The water has to follow the path of the water jackets that are matched between the block and head.
I'll give you an example of what I mean...
Imagine the yellow region is the head water jacket in the head, the red is the passage in the block, and the orange region is where they overlap. If you have a gasket to match the yellow hole, then it will only flow through the orange region. If you had a gasket to match the red hole, then the water would still only fill the orange region.
So, like I said, it really doesn't matter unless you decide to modify the head to match the block, then for sure you would want the 96-98 head gasket.
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"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
id use/make the holes larger to fit either , meaning opening the block and the head
to me alittle extra flow through the head = little better cooling
the extra small holes at the rear of the new head , id drill those into the block at the minimum
[quote=97cavie24ls(™)]id use/make the holes larger to fit either , meaning opening the block and the head
to me alittle extra flow through the head = little better cooling
the extra small holes at the rear of the new head , id drill those into the block at the minimum
I would agree with a little, but keep in mind that opening the holes too much will greatly affect evenly cooling the cylinders and head as less water will reach the front of the engine. It's something that should be taken into consideration when doing the 086 swap.
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"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
thats the thing i dont remember i just re-used one that i had layin around (im assuming the 2k cuz it would of been on the block and would of had less miles running on her) cuz i planned on having a new cometic or somthing and the 00 head goin back on shortly after i p&p'd it with ho cams... almost a yr and still haven't even started the disassembly of the head 