ok heres the question, with my 2200 (MT) after i get my i/h/e and throttle body done what kind of gains can i expect to get from tuning alone-as in on top of what the bolt ons gave me.
14.6879 whp max no more no less.
there is no real way to tell you, depends on who's doing the tuning and what they know, or if they know what they are doing.. and the only for sure way to tell is to get it dyno tuned, which i doubt your going to do for I/h/E
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With the ohv, I would wait until it was turbo'd before going with HPTuners. Don't buy it unless you're definately going the turbo route.
The horsepower gains wouldn't justify the money spent. In my humble opinion.
an intake isnt going to change your VE alone, for the money you would spend on HP tuners (650) you can prob do an engine swap, Hp tuners is a complete waste on a NA 2200 unless it has serious air flow changing mods like a new cylinder head, different compression, different cams, bigger valves
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Rodimus Prime wrote:an intake isnt going to change your VE much alone, for the money you would spend on HP tuners (650) you can prob do an engine swap or a turbo setup, Hp tuners is just as much of a complete waste on a NA 2200 as it is on other 3rd gen motors, unless it has serious air flow changing mods like a new cylinder head, different compression, different cams, bigger valves
fixed that for you
You're welcome.
fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.
What's funny is most of these folks don't even know how to tune every parameter yet and they're saying it's no use lmao!
N2O + Bolt-ons
= 220Hp/
250Tq
Coming Soon:HpTunersPro, EagleConnectingRods, WiescoPistons, 13sec2200
Bballjamal (Cav-AtL) wrote:What's funny is most of these folks don't even know how to tune every parameter yet and they're saying it's no use lmao!
Lol, shut up traitor
I'm pretty sure nobody knows the ins and outs of modifying every parameter of our ECUs yet...including Shifted.
fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.
Umm.. THe results are extremely impressive with the 2.4 N/A and on boost. Talk to Chris (Sweetness GT), who has done a few.
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I give up...
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fixed what? a turbo setup for 650 bucks are you on crack?
1989 Turbo Trans Am #82, 2007 Cobalt SS G85
Rodimus Prime wrote:fixed what? a turbo setup for 650 bucks are you on crack?
I've said it once and now I'll say it again, $300.
fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.
OHV notec wrote:Bballjamal (Cav-AtL) wrote:What's funny is most of these folks don't even know how to tune every parameter yet and they're saying it's no use lmao!
Lol, shut up traitor I'm pretty sure nobody knows the ins and outs of modifying every parameter of our ECUs yet...including Shifted.
lmao! I'm pretty sure I'm staying OHV!!! That is unless I swap a new head on and nothing works still! Then I'll be pretty pissed and I'll think more heavily about the darkside......
N2O + Bolt-ons
= 220Hp/
250Tq
Coming Soon:HpTunersPro, EagleConnectingRods, WiescoPistons, 13sec2200
the darkside wants both you and OHV notec.
Bballjamal (Cav-AtL) wrote:
lmao! I'm pretty sure I'm staying OHV!!! That is unless I swap a new head on and nothing works still! Then I'll be pretty pissed and I'll think more heavily about the darkside......
well thats good to hear. I'm modeling my future build around your success with the 100 shot, so it would be a bummer if u quit on the ohv.
Volumeking333(Ryan) wrote:the darkside wants both you and OHV notec.
I'm so far away from the darkside you might as well call me Yoda. However, the dark side I sense in you, young Ryan. Careful you shall be, or end you it might...
fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.
I have tuned 97 2.2, and a 2001 2200, Both NA, both Automatics...... Granted, these are not the fastest cars out there by any means, but I woke the cars up.....Both are more responsive,quicker,more fuel efficient and faster than what they were on a 50 shot wet..... I dont have dyno numbers or track times, but you can "feel" the difference...... I can understand what the opinions are in this thread, but, if you have the ability, or have someone with the ability that knows how to "properly tune" your vehicle, gains can be achieved..... I hope to have dyno numbers soon........ My normal dyno is booked for "months", but there is a local shop that just moved literally 5 houses down from mine that is waiting for their AWD Dyno to be installed soon..... I have made arrangements to do "sidework" for them.....
P&P Tuning
420.5whp / 359.8wtq
OHV notec wrote:Volumeking333(Ryan) wrote:the darkside wants both you and OHV notec.
I'm so far away from the darkside you might as well call me Yoda. However, the dark side I sense in you, young Ryan. Careful you shall be, or end you it might...
lol thats all i can say to that..
but back to the subject. yes you can get some more power out of it from tuning, but finding someone with the knowledge and willing to do it for your 2200 will be a difficult task, and be very spendy, which is okay if you want the power out of it, sometimes you just have to spend more.
As far as the i/h/e goes, you won't be getting the combined power gains (for example, intake = 5hp, header = 10, exhaust = 5, does not equal 20). All of those work in synergy. You might get a combined total of 15 using the above example.
HPT as far as bolt ons go will tune the car to the added parts (optimal A/F ratio and whatnot) which may, in turn, give the impression that HP has been added, when in reality it was there to begin with, just the car is now running more efficiently and accurately w/ the bolt-ons.
ImPhat0260/Cavattack2000 wrote:I have tuned 97 2.2, and a 2001 2200, Both NA, both Automatics...... Granted, these are not the fastest cars out there by any means, but I woke the cars up.....Both are more responsive,quicker,more fuel efficient and faster than what they were on a 50 shot wet..... I dont have dyno numbers or track times, but you can "feel" the difference...... I can understand what the opinions are in this thread, but, if you have the ability, or have someone with the ability that knows how to "properly tune" your vehicle, gains can be achieved.....
This is the kind of stuff I like to hear. I am excited to see actual numbers showing improvement, but just hearing people say that the car feels faster and runs better/smoother makes it seem worthwhile.
the lemur wrote:ImPhat0260/Cavattack2000 wrote:I have tuned 97 2.2, and a 2001 2200, Both NA, both Automatics...... Granted, these are not the fastest cars out there by any means, but I woke the cars up.....Both are more responsive,quicker,more fuel efficient and faster than what they were on a 50 shot wet..... I dont have dyno numbers or track times, but you can "feel" the difference...... I can understand what the opinions are in this thread, but, if you have the ability, or have someone with the ability that knows how to "properly tune" your vehicle, gains can be achieved.....
This is the kind of stuff I like to hear. I am excited to see actual numbers showing improvement, but just hearing people say that the car feels faster and runs better/smoother makes it seem worthwhile.
I am one of the few Ryan has tuned, on and off the nitrous. I know on the 50 shot, I lit the tires up in 1st and 2nd gear. I gained 5 MPG, much improved power throughout my powerband...it really just "woke my car up." Just as Ryan says. The other 2.2 owner came back after 2 hours of data logging/tuning and has had a big @!#$-eatin grin on his face since. Its worth the money if you know how to use it.
