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HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Thursday, November 24, 2005 6:01 PM
I installed my HO manifold and attached the throttle cable to the throttle wheel. i go inside and see that my gas pedal is all the day down like a dead pedal .. i later found that it was because of too much line or slack connecting to the pedal from the throttle wheel. i tried to tie the xtra line but it doesnt work..any way how to adjust it to make it tighter? or any remedies?








Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Thursday, November 24, 2005 8:06 PM
Shouldnt the throttle area be on top (not on the side)?


Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Thursday, November 24, 2005 8:57 PM
i used the 2.3 TB. when i got it thats how it was positioned. it should the the right way



Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:10 PM
thats why you used the 2.4 bracket on the 2.3 tb

you have to use a 2.3 bracket on the 2.3


also , with some of the brackets you might need to move the bracket farther away from the tb







Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:21 PM
i am using a 2.3 bracket on the 2.3 TB.



Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:22 PM
[quote=97cavie24ls(JDM&00s/c sedans™)]thats why you used the 2.4 bracket on the 2.3 tb

you have to use a 2.3 bracket on the 2.3


also , with some of the brackets you might need to move the bracket farther away from the tb

no its the other way around.....the 2.3 bracket is too close to the throttle wheel. you need to use a 2.4 bracket to move the mounting point of the cable farther from the wheel...then it'll work right.


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Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:24 PM
i used some JBweld on the throttle cable by the pedal. Pull the pedal all the way up and put some JBweld around the cable and hold the pedal there until it hardens, give it some time and there you go. I havent had any problems for almost a year now. Simple solution.




Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:52 PM
ooohh..ill try that jbweld thingy..i tired to pin the cable by the pedal but it came off and i had no control of the throttle.lol. good thing i was still in my drive way..ill also try the 2.4 bracket..



Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Thursday, November 24, 2005 11:41 PM
2.4 bracket definately.....just got done with my own and it works perfectly


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Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Thursday, November 24, 2005 11:46 PM
thats not the right 2.3 cable bracket for that tb then


the 2.3 brackets ive got are alot taller







Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Thursday, November 24, 2005 11:53 PM
i would figure out how much slack is there. Then take the bracket and have it extended to take up the slack in the line. Wouldnt see it costing that much to do it. And would probably be much safer then using JBweld



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Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Friday, November 25, 2005 2:17 AM
Quote:

the 2.3 brackets ive got are alot taller


Probably like I have,
The ones with 2 circle and 1 square type hole in them.

But the bracket he has I've seen in the junkyards around here.

But how its positioned its kinda leans tward if the tb lever had the cruise control nipple.
-M


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Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Friday, November 25, 2005 5:26 AM
Every 2.3 manifold swap I have seen was using the 2.4 bracket.



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Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Friday, November 25, 2005 7:43 AM
That's a pre-95 without cruise bracket & it will do just fine. Cut the cable end off at the pedal & install a cable stop there to postition the pedal as needed. Much more reliable then that jb weld idea & allows you adjust the pedal if need be.
Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Friday, November 25, 2005 8:03 AM
I have the proper type of 2.3 bracket if you need it. I bought it new from GM but never used it. Still in the GM parts bag





Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Friday, November 25, 2005 12:16 PM
2enthusiast4 wrote:I installed my HO manifold and attached the throttle cable to the throttle wheel. i go inside and see that my gas pedal is all the day down like a dead pedal .. i later found that it was because of too much line or slack connecting to the pedal from the throttle wheel. i tried to tie the xtra line but it doesnt work..any way how to adjust it to make it tighter? or any remedies?



I'd just make a new bracket, using the old one as a template, and make the one leg longer to get rid of the cable slack. Are the cable wheel diameters the same between a 2.3 and 2.4 TB?


I made a bracket for a Edelbrock TB, which had a huge cable wheel, and the stock 2.3HO cable works fine.



Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Friday, November 25, 2005 10:31 PM
Lenko, John Lenko wrote:I have the proper type of 2.3 bracket if you need it. I bought it new from GM but never used it. Still in the GM parts bag


how much does it cost?



Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Sunday, November 27, 2005 4:01 AM
in those 2 dif. setups the throttle cable is coming from oposite directions..... why? could that be the problem?







Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:49 AM
I just put a ho intake on my 2.4 with a 62mm throttle body (stock configuration). I hate the way the cable are. If you ask me they are bent way to sharp due to the battery being in the way, and a coolant line. I noticed some guys have there brackets hooked up backwards from stock the the edelbrock up there any help to this please post pictures of positions of your throttle brackets so i can see how you guys did them.

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Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Friday, September 14, 2007 12:18 PM
Bringing one out the dead here, but this just proves that I searched... anyways I did the HO manifold swap on my 99 Z24, and apparently I have the wrong cable bracket because it seems like my throttle cable is too short. When I hook it to the tb and then go to put it through the bracket it holds the throttle wide open. I've searched here and Q4 forums but I haven't read anything like this. Anyways I gotta keep it short because I need to catch the fuggin bus to class here now...

Any ideas? I'm trying to use my original cable bracket, but it positions it way wrong. Would I need to get a bracket from a 2.3 car?






Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Friday, September 14, 2007 1:14 PM
I'm glad you mentioned that you brought it back from the dead, because I wasn't looking at the dates, then I saw a post by Jbodyho, and was like WTF!!

Anyways...A 2.4L bracket on a 2.3L throttle body will hold the butterfly open. Likewise, a 2.3L non-Jbody throttle bracket on the 2.3L throttle body will leave too much slack. You either need to modify one of the brackets, make your own, or find a 2.3L J-body bracket.


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Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Friday, September 14, 2007 3:28 PM
Thanks for clearing that up Brian. Sounds like a pita to find one from a 95 J I bet. Do you know how I'd need to mod one by any chance? Say potentially could I use some spacers to make the 2.3 bracket taller? There is a yard nearby with a ton of LO and HO cars, none of them Js however...






Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Saturday, September 15, 2007 2:37 PM
I have gone throgh a bunch of the junk yards by me, and have yet to find a 95 quad4 powered J.

What I did, is I used a 2.3L throttle bracket out of an early 90's SOHC grand am. I found the right size washer to allow the throttle cable to snap into. Then my dad welded 3 little brackets to the washer, I then screwed the washer assembly onto the throttle bracket with only 2 screws. Similarly, my dad also cut the cruise control part of the 2.4L bracket and welded it onto the 2.3L bracket as well...but for some reason, my cc doesn't work. Took it all apart and then painted it gloss black with Rustoleum.

This is the only picture I have of this



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Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Saturday, September 15, 2007 3:19 PM
95 Z24's and GT's are a dime a dozen in yards around here it seems.... but finding one that's still got the engine in it? Damn near impossible... if it's got a good running engine, it's yanked and sold the minute it gets to the yard.



Re: HO manifold: too much throttle cable
Monday, September 17, 2007 6:22 AM
so the 95 cavaliers had the 2.3 with the Ho manifold on it? i am in the process of gathering the parts for this swap and was going to order the 95 tb bracket from the dealer if i cant find one and i figured i'd get a 95 throttle cable to if they are different part numbers for the 95 and then the 96-up's
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